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    Ventricosa Troubles

    I started noticing my N. ventricosa declining a few days ago. Upon inspection I found powdery orange/rust colored stuff all over on the bottom of the leaves. At first I thought it was 'rust'. From the descriptions I've read, rust is more in spots than all over. Maybe I misunderstood? What might it be?







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    Crystal

    Edit: I should also add that on the smaller plant, the leaves are getting much smaller and also have a yellowish hue to them. The larger plant is not yet making the smaller leaves or turning in color, but does have the odd 'rust' colored powder on the bottom of some leaves.
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    My ventricosa died in the very same manner.

    The "rust" isn't a disease, it's just part of the dying process I'm pretty sure...

    I presumed that mine was "under-fed", lack of proper nutrients...........
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    Have you looked closely at the undersides with at least a 10x magnifier or better? Looks like mite damage to me.
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    Fryster, Tony,

    Thanks for the information. I'm tempted to cut the smaller vent off due to it looking so bad.

    I took a magnifier to it this morning. I did spot some whitish/translucent specks sort of like the color of clear dried silicon. I also found some nectar drops. My magnifier isn't 10x (I'm not sure what it is) so I'll have to pick one up to know for sure. For all I know the little dots could be dust. Where's a good place to get one on a budget?

    Thanks guys,
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    Heck, spray it with a systemic regardless. If it's dying anyway, whatcha got to loose?
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    I was able to do some more research on the subject and found an article on another forum that suggested to do a paper test. So I took the piece of white paper and held it under the leaf of my spec and tapped it a few times. I have some kind of infestation. The spec was right beside the vent that's showing problems (the vent is now moved but it looks like I caught it too late) and I noticed the leaves on the spec are starting to curl inwards. I'm not seeing any webbing. The little specks that fell onto the paper are tiny, and are a dark brown color. They are too small to see with my magnifing glass so I drew a circle around one to see if it moves. They do. The only pesticide that I have is soap based: Safer Insect Killing Soap with seaweed extract. It's good for Aphids, Mealybugs, Mites, Whiteflies and other pests. I read soap is bad so I guess I get to go to the store tomorrow. I'll do some more research on insecticides (I guess I need a general one since I'm not completely sure what they are) tonight when I get more time so I'll know what to get tomorrow.

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    That' what was happening to several of my plants recently also - same looking leaves. It really set a couple of them back. I think mine were mites also - darn hard to keep up with. I hit 'em with a systemic, and I'm probably going to do a second treatment soon.

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    It looks like it's going to be a huge mess for me. My Neps are all inside. I only hope that they have stayed on the Neps and haven't moved down a shelf to my Drosera and Pings. I bought in a nep from outside a little bit ago. I didn't check it all that well before plopping it down with the rest. I bet that's where they came from. They are too difficult to see, so I'll be treating everything on that shelf.

    I've done some research and have found references to all of these being used:
    Ortho Systemic Insect Killer
    Neem Oil
    Orthene
    Schultz's Garden Safe 3 in 1 Insecticide, Fungicide, and Miticide

    I'll take the list with me and purchase whichever one I can find. When it comes to me and finding recommended products, everything is against me for some reason lol. The places here just don't have whatever I'm specifically looking for, plant related or not.

    If you don't mind me asking, what systemic are you using night?

    I'm trying to figure out if it would be better to go with the systemic which takes time to work, or if I should go with something that will kill them quick and then maybe use the systemic later to ensure they are gone?

    Thanks,
    Crystal
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