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    You normally can't actually tell whether its Ventrata or Alata until they get to a stage where they make pitchers either with spikes/frills, or without. It looks too young to tell to me. I have a pure strain Alata seedling that is making similar pitchers, simply due to how young it is. And it is definitely pure strain.
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    This is what my Alata's pitchers look like, almost like yours but with more color. This was a neglected Nep i took in, now doing very well..



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    Look beyond the pitcher to the leaf and you will see there is no distinct petiole. N. alata has a distinct petiole while N. ventrata is in between the strap leaf of N. ventricosa and the clear petiole of N. alata.

    The other thing you need to realize is that for about 25 years now. Deroose has sold thousands and thousands of N. ventrata around the US at garden centers and home centers labelled as N. alata. They continue to do so today. http://www.derooseplants.com/en/sele...ntWebInfoId=59
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    I think it's pretty safe to agree that when Tony id's a Nep...he has id'd it correctly.

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    It is ventrata as tony said. Just as he pointed out the leaf petiole in alata is not present..I hate when people distribute miss IDd nepenthes or plants in general.

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    If you look closely, it's not mis-ID'd - the name is listed Nepenthes 'Alata' on their website or abbreviated as N. 'Alata' on tags, and by plant nomenclature, that's different that Nepenthes alata (or to be really proper, Nepenthes alata.) It's our own faults for not being informed! I had one of these once, but it had some sort of pitcher deformity so I gave it away when I ran out of room. I believe the actual parentage might be alata x (alata x ventricosa) - the plant is named after the seed parent, which was an N. alata.
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    My point being that for the 5 bazzillionth time someone fairly new has gotten a piece of this plant and in their collection it is called N. alata, regardless if Deroose has it 'Alata' makes no difference. If people are going to go around trading, giving away, selling this plant believing it is the species, then it needs to be corrected whenever it pops up.
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    Oh I agree with you there Tony, it is foolish - just playing Devil's Advocate, I guess.
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