Legal isn't always right like I said before. There are so many things wrong with many laws. You cabt honestly think that its right. So if you lived up the road from neps that were not yet protected because the country just doesn't give a plain damn about what happens, you would remove them? If the land was in no danger of being renovated on, I see no reason why the plants should be disturbed. Its wrong in my eyes and in the eyes of everyone I have discussed this with. You seem to be the only person that is down for habitat destruction....ooooh I know why, its because you believe all plants should be of seedgrown origin isn't it? Mr. Would not waste your time with a tc rajah...well I see you have a tc hamata and many other tc plants, why are you so dead set on only owning a sg rajah...all of em are in private collections and I completely understand why....why don't you just ask a native resident in borneo to dig one up and send it to you from a part of their back yard.
That is just plain rude, SK. I have no idea why you wanted to turn this into a verbal bloodbath. I am not down for habitat destruction -
I never said I was - I just realize it's happening everywhere. And I happened to realize that that was what was happening, so this WC thing that Phoenix does is not bad.
TC plants are good for trying before you actually try (kill) a SG plant. I am trying those TC plants because I'd like to be ready for SG plants of the same species when the opportunity arises. I mean, a SG N. hamata has no small price tag. Now I realise that it doesn't actually take so much effort to grow HL Nepenthes. If a SG rajah presented itself back at that point, I would have set up all the right conditions to accomodate it (and still would) - by no means a small task - because it is SG, not some TC clone. A TC clone would not have gotten the royal treatment, because everyone is growing it to a good size, and there would be nothing different about it. Therefore, it might have died due to improper conditions (NM is subject to hot summers, afterall) - so I would just try some of the easier (and more interesting) species.
Realize that the USA is blinded from the activities that are happening in Nepenthes habitats; we only occasionally see a fraction of developmental activities that wipe out these populations forever. Wild collection is not as bad as it is reputed if you are able to see the underlying cause.
I would never ask a resident of Borneo to dig me up an N. rajah, for my own selfish purposes. I am not "dead set" on having one, either. Don't be so ridiculous, and show a little respect, please.
excuse me for having morals
excuse me for pointing out the truth
You are excused and forgiven for false perception.
Sincerest Regards.