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    cmm889 - I wasn't by any means insinuating that you were. I meant that comment more as a blanket statement...and certainly appologize if you felt it was directed at you.

    rattler - I feel your pain. I know the orchid grower you are referring to. Placing plants in competent grower's hands is important as the return is worth more than the plant will ever be. Plants you have shared/traded will make it back into your hands. Unfortunately some people don't see things in the same light. The dollar signs in their eyes far outweigh the perpetuation of rare material. If I'm not mistaken...that orchid grower has small divisions of Phragmipedium besseae for sale for $30,000 per growth. To each his own I guess.

    Varun - I have been told that N. hurrelliana is being released for sale this year. I don't recall if these are tc or seed grown...but given who they are comming from, you can expect they will be the most outrageously expensive 'little' things you have seen yet.

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    yeah he is an interesting character but as someone running a business myself, i aint going to criticize how someone else runs theirs.....if they can keep the doors open they must be doing something right even if i dont necessarily agree with it, and the plants i have received from him have been quality just on the expensive side....granted sometimes with plants quality will trump a good deal to save a few bucks which is why i tend to give my dollars to only a couple nep sellers ....ive got zero problems buying from the individual, be they orchids or neps, but i prefer to do so in person on the rare occasion im in the area.....
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    Point well taken, Pyro, and everyone else. I spoke with hasty words.

    True, if I had an Edwardsiana, I wouldn't be rushing to do cuttings. Still though, I would bet that a decent sized cutting could probably fetch almost any price.

    Whatever the matter it makes little sense to me that a species like Villosa is pretty readily available, and from what I gather in the same range and similar density to that of edwardsiana, and it certainly can't grow a whole lot quicker. I guess it is mostly just unfortunate all around. Especially regarding Klossi, as it is not in a protected area, and is threatened.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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    its called luck.............you would be surprised how often things like that are due to one or two very small details that could have easily gone the other direction.....
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    Aye, and it also seems like Villosa might have been recognized by the masses sooner.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexenthes View Post
    Aye, and it also seems like Villosa might have been recognized by the masses sooner.
    You've got a point, but nurseries would rather deal with plants which are more likely to survive in cultivation or even in a nursery display -- not always a guarantee when dealing with ultra-highland Nepenthes, their restrictive cultural requirements, and outright expense. If you saw the N. villosa thread I posted on 11 March, there is one shot of the pissant little plant when it first arrived -- and it looked none too healthy; and that one was considered the "best" of three in triage . . .

    It took votive candles, unhallowed rites, regular slug patrol, and over two years for it to recover -- and, occasionally, I know what I am doing . . .
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    I saw your little sprout. It's looking good now!

    Every freshly arrived Villosa I've seen really does look just pathetic.

    A characteristic I find really appealing about the villosa clan (Macro, eddy) is that even in upper pitchers some of them still have nice looking wings going up the front.
    LOOKING FOR: N. (argentii x bicalcarata) x {[(lingulata x edwardsiana) x (naga x hamata)] x [(klossii x undulatifolia) x (aristolochioides x rajah)]} Growlist: http://www.terraforums.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=124586

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBella View Post
    You've got a point, but nurseries would rather deal with plants which are more likely to survive in cultivation or even in a nursery display -- not always a guarantee when dealing with ultra-highland Nepenthes, their restrictive cultural requirements, and outright expense. If you saw the N. villosa thread I posted on 11 March, there is one shot of the pissant little plant when it first arrived -- and it looked none too healthy.

    It took votive candles, unhallowed rites, regular slug patrol, and over two years for it to recover -- and, occasionally, I know what I am doing . . .
    isnt that fun? i run into the same sort of issues with some species orchids.....only a handful of ppl will be having success growing them in enough quantity to sell for certain species.....aint anyway some of them will ever be mass produced.......you take what yah get when yah can get them if yah want them.......complain about the price and they will just sell to someone willing to spend it......

    look at N. × trusmadiensis......the only reason its as easy to get ahold of as it is, is some popped up out of TC'ed lowii seeds a few years ago.......pure luck that you can actually get ahold of it on anything remotely approaching a regular basis........
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