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    for the fangs you would proably have to backcross so it would be (bical(bicalXhamata) and then you could add in some lingulata so it hopefully would have the tounge from lingulata, teeth of hamata, and fangs of bical.

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    As to the original post, the reason you can't find any pictures is because it hasn't (publicly) been crossed, yet. There aren't a lot of flowering N. hamata's out there, and odds are not great that one of the three most popular N. hamata clones are female is slim (I know one is male, and I thought one other was, too... Not sure about the third).

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    Quote Originally Posted by rattler_mt View Post
    hamata is only delicate when young.....once it gains some size its practically a weed....its just tends to be kinda touchy about low humidity when small and not every one agrees on this, some have had young ones that seem pretty tough.....
    I guess "demanding" or "particular" would be better terms. The results of folks like you and elgecko show that it can be a reliable plant, but it does have some specific cultural needs. It's hardier than people give credit, but it's not bombproof either.
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    Yeah definitely not a cross that has happened yet. It would be an amazing hybrid, no doubt.
    My guess is that it would have a pretty rotund shape, with narly splotches and great coloration, maybe a really big plant. Bical is not finicky at all as long as it's really hot, so my guess is it would be a really strong plant.

    Hamata's teeth probably wouldn't be much of anything, but I would bet that the fangs would be at least partially there, seeing as they are just part of the peristome, and Hamata has an equally as narly peristome, so probably you wold see at least some sort of spikish appendage where the lid meets peristome.

    Who knows, definitely sounds awesome though, especially if you were to back cross again with the parents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seedjar View Post
    I guess "demanding" or "particular" would be better terms. The results of folks like you and elgecko show that it can be a reliable plant, but it does have some specific cultural needs. It's hardier than people give credit, but it's not bombproof either.
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    given only a handful of species are bomb proof that really doesn t say much.......if you can provide intermediate temps and decent humidity your good to go......if you cant do that add hamata to a LOOOOOONG list of species you cant grow.......anyone that doesnt have pure lowland conditions, can provide decent humidity and has moved on and been successful with species neps other than those sold at big box stores should be fine with growing hamata....it aint demanding or terribly particular when compared to most other species.....infact it falls in the middle of the pack......is it bomb proof? no.......but VERY few pure species are.........
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    At the risk of sounding slightly stupid I would be willing to go so far as to say that any species that can reliably be grown as a window sill plant is about as close to bomb proof as you are going to get. I have a ventricosa and a hamata growing side by side on a window sill. Everyone will tell you that vantricosa is bomb proof so it seems more than a little silly to call hamata "frail" or "sensitive" or "demanding" when it can grow under the same conditions...

    Granted I have 10 years of growing under my belt and I do not recommend that a newbie who has never grown a single Nep go out and grab up a hamata and plop it out. I would not recommend they do that with any Nep until they have a feel for the genus as a whole. But this stigma that hamata is dancing on eggshells fragile is just silly.
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    well i dont know if your and elgecko's window sills count as a test for rating neps bomb proof.....i think mine does though with its 10-15% relative humidity for large portions of the year course the only pure species so far i can get to grow AND pitcher reliably is ventricosa on a window sill.....if we expand that to just growing happily but maybe not pitchering to well you can add bongso and veitchii to the mix but im sure truncata and a few others would do so aswell.....and there are of course the hybrids that tend to be more tolerant of less than ideal conditions.....
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    I had N. hamata in precisely the same environment as my rajah and lowii seedlings are presently in (and the rest of my highlanders, most of which are plants with much less of a reputation), and hamata slowly choked while the other two thrived. What I'm getting at is that with most of my plants, when they don't like it, I have weeks or months to correct the problem. N. hamata just flat out died on me - no second chances, no indicating symptoms, just a steady, systemic decline. While providing it with the correct conditions doesn't seem a whole lot harder than any other plant I grow, it does seem a little more specific in its needs, and less forgiving of mistakes. (Which surprised me, because I thought hamata was one of the species more well-adapted to stressors like low humidity - hirsute, thick leaves, etc.)
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    PS - In response to Pyro: In the case of CPs, I'd agree with you. But have you ever grown a Sanseveria? That's my idea of a bombproof plant; if a bomb goes off next to you and you're hospitalized in a coma for six months, there's still a good chance that your Sanseveria will be waiting for you when you come to. I used to let them go for four to five weeks at a time, but I think even my toughest Neps would be ailing after more than a month or two without water.
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