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    what do you mean?
    i wasnt saying anything was special.
    i was saying that the seedgrown batch number is BE-3280 and the cloned batch is BE-3081
    if this batch of clone plants is from the same group of plants as the seedgrown plants, it just means you have a new line of clones from a new location that arent the common AW (wistuba) clones, old BE clone, or the MT clone.
    These new clones from BE, if they are from the same location as the seedgrown plants, just means youll have a new clone.

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    By special I meant why they gave it a different number, thanks SK
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    Congratulations, Carn. I STILL say that baby hamatas look like pings.
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    Different number is just used for identification purposes. You never know....if this clone of yours happens to sport red leaves and black pitchers in the future as it matures, they can track it back and this way sell it as a "special black form with red leaves". Its good that they keep record of the clones. The other advantage is maybe this new clone you have happens to be a female....then they can easily have full information on the gender, phenotype and location of these plants. it would be useful in perhaps crosses in the future.

    Yeah! as SK said...it does look like a new "set" of plants from the same batch as the seedgrown offered before: I am especially looking at that red leaf.

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    The numbers are for product identification. Only in a few cases do they identify specific clones or give a single clone it's own product number. 3081 is the standard green/black spotted N. hamata from G. Lumut. If memory serves correct they have 2 different clones, but don't quote me on that.

    Tissue culture clones from the new location, that is currently available as seed grown plants, probably won't be available for another year or so.
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    Thanks for the info Tony.
    how is your batch of seedgrown Hamata from the new location? im pretty sure you had a few...

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    thanks for correcting me Tony. That makes it more clear. Now....if I recall correctly, the wistuba clones are from Lamut location as well. I wonder what the difference is between the BE and wistuba clones of this N. hamata.

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    I thought I recall that all the G. Lumut plants in cultivation from the various nurseries all originated from one collection years back. There seems to be a fair bit of variability with coloration on the lower pitchers. Everything from green with blackish purple spots to more of a solid reddish color and not many spots. They all appear to turn green with the mature upper pitchers, but I can't say I have seen every clone out there in both stages. Years ago MT had a dozen clones so there are quite a few different plants floating around.

    Now if you are asking what is the difference between the new seed grown plants BE is releasing from a different location and the G. Lumut.. that's a good question. So far the seedlings overall turn more red in the leaves than I have ever seen with the G. Lumut seedlings.
    According to their website:
    "The upper pitchers have less pronounced claws than the commonly circulated TC clones from Gng. Lumut and the lower pitchers are generally more robust (larger). Peristomes on mature plants are sometimes red"
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