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    I wouldn't want a aggressive, potentially lethal spider near me. Is it in the pitcher?
    I would ask a pest control service what the best way to capture or kill one is. Don't mess around with potentially deadly insects.
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    Sydney funnel webs are highly toxic....lots of other spiders make funnel webs and arent....our grass spiders make funnel webs but arent much of even an inconvenience if you get bit......

    as for how to get rid of it....in a word, fire








    seriously though most any hardware store should have spider poison...or you could take a thing of canned air, flip it upside down so the liquid shoots out, smoke the spider with it, if the cold dont kill it it should slow it down enough for you to smash it......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayota View Post
    . I think that the possibility being bitten by a venomous spider vs. killing that spider... I'd kill it.
    So why is removing it without killing it not an option??

    Edit: It never ceases to amaze me how the second people feel threatened by anything they resort to killing it.
    If you dont go messing with it, it wont come messing with you seeing as you're about a million times larger then it.

    Yes it has a powerful arsenal so what? Should that be it's demise?
    Get a pair of gloves, put the plant outside, fill the pitcher with water and flush the critter out and bring the plant back in. But of course that would be a MUCH larger inconvenience then killing it right?
    We invade their habitats and then we expect them to not be in our homes? please...
    Repellents are an easy solution to both sides but it may be a tad late if it's already inside.

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    im all for relocating animals but when it comes to potentially deadly species....if yah dont have the experience to do it with reasonable certainty you aint getting bit, just kill the dang thing and be over it.....if there is a local pest control company that will come catch it for yah and release it and you want to pay the bill and feel all better bout yourself, have at it....
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    Seeing as how he keeps CPs, I think he conscience will be clear if he kills it. Keeping CPs outside of thier natural habitat will definately kill more insects in that ecosystem than his boot.

    Feed it to your nep afterwards so it's death will serve a purpose and call it a day. It will save the life of some cricket somewhere that would have been freeze dried or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dashman View Post
    Seeing as how he keeps CPs, I think he conscience will be clear if he kills it. Keeping CPs outside of thier natural habitat will definately kill more insects in that ecosystem than his boot.

    Feed it to your nep afterwards so it's death will serve a purpose and call it a day. It will save the life of some cricket somewhere that would have been freeze dried or something.
    It's one thing for a plant to do what it naturally does, but to kill it because you're afraid it MAY bite you if YOU go mess with it is another.
    I'm not claiming some tree hugging hippie methods here, I've killed my fair share of squeeters and other bugs but resorting directly to killing it without understanding it or resorting to another means is narrow minded.

    Just because you grow/own CPs doesnt give you some sort of license to kill bugs, justifying your actions by saying ' it's ok I own CPs, it was going to happen anyways.' is absurd.
    If that's the case then I guess I could justify driving a H2 by saying 'It's ok I grow trees in my backyard'.

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    I think he does understand it, French - he understands that it could easily kill him if he simply lets his guard down. This isn't like a spider bite that swells up and itches. It's closer to a pit viper hiding in your crawlspace or a rabid dog hunkering down in the bushes in your back yard. Would you hesitate to kill a dangerous pest like a growing spider mite infestation? Would you escort aphids back outside peacefully on the off chance that they didn't lay eggs on your plants that will eventually destroy them?
    These spiders have a tendency to hide, are very fast moving, and are extremely aggressive. They aren't intimidated by larger animals the way that many venomous insects are - specifically because they can kill larger animals that happen to threaten them. I'm not normally an advocate of killing as pest control, but this isn't something big and obvious that you can catch, like you would with a bear or the like. Also, spiders are quite prolific, and killing one isn't going to damage their gene pool the way that it would with a less fecund type of animal. Honestly, I don't understand how you can criticize when you yourself admit to killing things as benign as mosquitos. (The chance of dying minutes after a mosquito bite is virtually zero; death from an Atrax robustus bite is nearly certain if you don't quickly receive medical treatment.) And to refer back to your own words:
    Quote Originally Posted by F R e N c H 3 z View Post
    ... to kill it because you're afraid it MAY bite you if YOU go mess with it is another.
    These spiders WILL kill YOU because THEY are afraid you might be there to eat them. And that's not just a skewed belief they have acquired from generations of negative portrayal of humans in spider media; that's a behavior that's hard-wired into the spider's DNA.
    I suggest spraying with dilute rubbing alcohol. Not sure if it works on spiders, but it's my default response for things like aphids and scale. The canned air idea sounds good too.
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    I guess I really must follow my own words then and know more about these certain arachnids. The whole idea of killing before anything else is just one of those topics that irks me.
    If I know I'm going to live in an area where some sort of wild and dangerous animal lives, I try to prevent it from entering as much as I can (ie repellents)so I dont have to deal with removing it later.
    Back to the mosquito example, I dont go killing every mosquito I see, just the ones that bite me. Heck I even let the larvae be.

    And yes you're right seedjar, if there was something as aggressive and dangerous and it caught me off guard, my initial reaction would be to defend myself which would most likely result in me killing it.

    Sorry for the rant, like I said, the kill thing just rubs me the wrong way, but I will admit SOMETIMES it is the quickest/easiest and best answer. I'll get off my high horse now

    I am curious though, would you ( happy-gnome) be able to snap a picture of it? Google turns up some nice looking buggers so this should be a treat.

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