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    Unhappy Nep help

    Recently got a vetricosa online. This is my first nep and im giving it all the requirements and the plant is really healthy looking and its pitchering well. However my largest pitcher which is no more than 2 inches long, out of no where appears to be dying. im linking a pic of it but im just wondering whats going wrong. http://http://carnivorousplantman.webs.com/myplants.htm

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    the link doesnt work.

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    Hi Grud,
    welcome to the forums!

    There is probably nothing wrong with your nepenthes..
    pitchers die..its normal.

    just keep giving it good conditions, and if it is happy with the conditions you provide, it will slowly respond and continue growing..

    You do however need to remove the Cobra Lilly, Venus Fly Traps, and all the Sarracenia from the terrarium!
    They wont survive in there..
    Terrariums are very bad for those plants..death is virtually assured!
    you need to take them out, re-pot them into individual pots, keep them on a windowsill for the rest of the winter, then put them outside in the spring..leave them outside all summer and into Autumn,
    then next winter you will need to devise a method for dormancy..
    then..dont ever buy VFT's Cobra Lillys or Sarracenia from Lowes in the middle of winter!
    very bad time of year to buy plants that should be dormant in the winter..

    I have a page here:
    http://gold.mylargescale.com/scottychaos/CP/page2.html
    about handling dormancy for people who live in our northern climates..

    (hmm..I just noticed you have a "growing instructions" page..
    you give generally good advice on that page!
    so when it comes to dormancy for VFTs and Sarracenia, why arent you taking your own advice?

    Scot

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    Quote Originally Posted by natevincent View Post
    the link doesnt work.

    Correct link:

    http://carnivorousplantman.webs.com/myplants.htm

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgrudz View Post
    Recently got a vetricosa online. This is my first nep and im giving it all the requirements and the plant is really healthy looking and its pitchering well. However my largest pitcher which is no more than 2 inches long, out of no where appears to be dying. http://carnivorousplantman.webs.com/myplants.htm
    Ack!!!

    I took a look at the link, and if that is a community terrarium you WILL have problems. You've got a highland nepenthes, a cobra plant, a VFT, two varieties of sarracenia, and an adalae all sharing the same soil and conditions. Depending on how you care for your terrarium, something has to die. The only question is what.

    First off, the cobra plant is toast. They like cold conditions. A terrarium is much too warm for them.

    Second, the sarracenia are going to outgrow that 10 gal tank. Also, you have mixed plants that require dormancy with those that do not, and you do not appear to have a contingency plant to accommodate dormancy requirements.

    Third, you've planted sarracenia on the same strata as the nepenthes. Sarracenia like the wet, nepenthes not so much. One will thrive, the other will not. While a 70% peat moss soil mix may suit the Sarracenia, it will not suite the nepenthes (not enough drainage).

    Fourth, reptile lighting is totally inadequate for growing CPs. They have very little of the photosynthetic radiation that plants need. And you have some plants that require high light, e.g., VFT.

    Okay, if you want to save your plants, institute the following plan without delay. (1) Discard the grow instructions that came with those plastic death cubes you bought the plants in. (2) Get a basic book on how to grow CPs, e.g. Savage Garden or Growing Carnivorous Plants. (3) Replant the doomed plants into individual pots with (a) the proper soil mix, (b) the proper amount of water and humidity--the tray method works well, and (c) the proper kind of lighting--I can't stress this last one enough. (4) Continue to ask lots of questions. We are here to help.

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    So, first off, I applaud your enthusiasm. But there are some major problems.
    For one, you cribbed those growing instructions directly from a well-known vendor's site. It's obviously written by someone other than the rest of your site and Google sees all. That you claim copyrights at the bottom of your page is an invitation to a very real lawsuit. (It's also against the terms of service of your web host.)
    Two, all of those plants belong in pots. Planted terrariums are doable for certain Drosera, Nepenthes and others, but planted terrariums are a whole layer of complexity beyond growing carnivorous plants, for which special care and considerations are required. While many people start this way and do make it work, I think you'll find it much easier to learn how to care for these plants if you give them individual pots and pay attention to the unique cultural needs of each respective family. Nepenthes like a different type of soil than Darlingtonia, which prefer different mixes than common Drosera and American bog species like Sarracenia and Dionaea. To be blunt, don't be surprised if your current approach kills a number of your plants - if you want to do it this way, you can't be the type to discourage easily.
    Best luck, and welcome to the forums.
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    [Personal Opinion- Feel free to disagree]

    Okay, be careful. I am a terrarium hater because I just don't see the use of keeping them in glass cases. I see a few things wrong (IMO) in those pictures.

    1. Terrariums as a whole are not good for Darlingtonia, Sarracenia, and Dionaea. Especially the VFT, which looks etiolated... not a good sign. Plus, your media looks dry, which is not too great. I'd put all your plants in individual pots and sit them in a tank, or better yet in natural light and your Darlingtonia, Sarracenia, and Darlingtonia outside. It's winter, so where's their dormancy?

    2. Your lighting could be improved. Natural direct sunlight is the absolute best that there is, no doubt about it. Like I mentioned, a certain three genuses could be outside now... where's the dormancy? N. ventricosa and D. adelae should be on a supremely-lit windowsill or under t5 or t8 lights. Reptile lights don't cut it.

    3. You don't need to feed... especially during winter. Feeding isn't that important, focus on getting your conditions right first. And don't force-feed dormant plants.

    4. Don't steal from the public domain. Your pictures are all from Google sources, your info sounds so... familiar... on growing CPs as well...

    I tend to agree with Scotty, Joe, and Dave. Get your conditions right, and have fffffuuuunnn!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clue View Post
    4. Don't steal from the public domain. Your pictures are all from Google sources, your info sounds so... familiar... on growing CPs as well...
    Not to nitpick, but the stolen material isn't public domain - it's from copywritten/trademarked sources. Public domain you can get away with, but other people's intellectual property is risky business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by seedjar View Post
    Not to nitpick, but the stolen material isn't public domain - it's from copywritten/trademarked sources. Public domain you can get away with, but other people's intellectual property is risky business.
    ~Joe
    I was thinking something else when I typed that... and yeah, most of the pics reposted were of copyrighted material/CP sellers.

    So don't steal from other sources, really. Be proud of your own plants and upload more pics of them.



    Back on topic now!
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