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Thread: Seed grown N.hamata ? I think not !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clue View Post
    There goes optimism.

    I'm not saying that what the seller did was good, and until we hear word on what the seller says, we can only speculate. Until then, I think that just looking up and seeing a bright side is really all that's left unless he's willing to accept a refund for the plant.

    Either way, I'm interested in seeing how this plays out.
    Ahaha sorry!

    But, agreed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    Look at the bottom of the plant. It's flat ! You can see the cut !
    Ah, now I see what your talking about. Was hard to see at first. That definitely looks like a cutting rather than a SG plant. Lets hope that it even came from a mature SG Hamata and not some TC clone.
    I mean, if it ends up a female, that would be awesome.

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    It looks like a cutting to me too, but like people have mentioned, this cutting could be genetically different from other N. hamata's, which is still a good thing. But maybe you should ask for a discount as the way it was advertised was misleading.
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    Maybe the 07 is refering to the year it was planted. 2007, in 5 years you could end up with a cutting of a seed grown plant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    It was sold to me as "seed grown 07" !!!!!!!!!! Not "cutting of a seed grown"!
    What difference does it make?
    I dont understand the reason for the dismay and anger..

    to me, there is no difference between a "seed grown plant" and a "cutting of a seed grown plant"..
    its the same plant either way..what am I missing?

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    Definately looks like a cutting. A seedgrown plant typically implies it is unique and hasn't had any clones made of it. Otherwise, I have a whole room of seed grown nepenthes.

    I would definately pose the question to the seller. If the vine still exists, then I don't think it can be considered seed grown any longer and not worthy of a premium for it's uniqueness as it exists in cultivation elsewhere. But it is in limited existence and there is a chance it is female so...

    No expert here, just my opinion.

    What difference does it make?
    I dont understand the reason for the dismay and anger..

    to me, there is no difference between a "seed grown plant" and a "cutting of a seed grown plant"..what am I missing?
    To me a seed grown nepenthes implies there is a chance it is female. Other than that, I typically prefer clones because clones are usually the very best examples of specimens even though they are usually males.
    Last edited by dashman; 03-31-2011 at 07:46 PM. Reason: can't spell and repeating myself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottychaos View Post
    What difference does it make?
    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    [this plant, advertised as a seedgrown, was]... about $100.00 more than ... a cutting of that size
    <Heli> How are you guys losing your hamatas?
    <Brokken> Heli: The hamburglar.

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    So, the general consensus is that it's a cutting. That was the point. It's not a "seed grown plant", it's a cutting of an already existing plant. Thank you everyone !

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