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    Nepenthes uppers or not?

    Okay, so all the N. 'Effulgent Koto' pitchers I've seen have stripes on the peristome. However, mine hasn't made a single striped peristome pitcher. So I just figured they'll get their stripes when they get bigger. Well, they're getting pretty big and still no stripes. I have two of these plants, and the smaller one is now working on it's first pitcher. I have to say I'm noticing a little difference in pitcher traits.

    Here's the pitchers being produced by the larger plant. Uppers, or no?




    Now here's an upcoming pitcher on each plant. The one on the left is the larger plant's pitcher, and the one on the right is the smaller plant's. Kind of makes me wonder..



    I think the only way to know for sure without professional opinions is by waiting for this new pitcher to open. If the first pitcher on the smaller plant is striped, well.. mystery solved.

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    I wouldn't say those are upper pitchers yet, unless the tendril has made a loop. They might be intermediate pitchers though.
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    I didn't know there was such thing as "intermediate" pitchers. Is that like, between lowers and uppers? Wouldn't those be called inbetweeners?

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    Yup, intermediate pitchers are produced briefly, and are a combination between the lowers and uppers. Have any of the tendrils formed loops? Upper pitcher form on those tendrils, as they try to grab stuff and climb.
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    nope.. no loops. Produced briefly huh.. It's been a year.

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    I still think they are still in the lower pitcher stage.
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    then.. WHERE'S MY DARN STRIPES!?!? I WANT them.. ~whimper~

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    My Nepenthes 'Effulgent Koto' produces pale yellow upper pitchers with no peristome striping and no looped tendrils. I would bet that your plant is in the intermediate-upper stage as well. "Intermediate" pitchers do, indeed, exist as well... I've noticed them as my N. 'Miranda' and N. maxima-dark x talangensis pitchers transitioned from lowers into uppers.
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