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    N.monticola vs. sp Doorman's Top #2

    After this last round of renaming, reclassifying and splitting up species (the Sarracenia splitters? OMG) I see that Wistuba has renamed some things to align with new taxonomy classifications (have I said this correctly?). Looking at Wistuba's New Guinean plants, I see that there still exists a 'sp Doorman's top #2' which is supposedly N. Papuana maybe and yet there's also a N.monticola which looks suprisingly the same. I.e. brownish non-descript pitchers as far as I can tell.

    I'm no taxonomist so I was wondering something like why is it that sp.Doorman's Top #2 still has no name and maybe what exactly delineates the difference between N.monticola and N.sp Doorman's Top #2. Could the real N.papuana please stand up?

    Here's Sockhom's blog that has some of these new plants/reclassifications from a little while ago:
    http://carnivorousockhom.blogspot.co...rsons-new.html

    Here's a picture of a puny pitcher on my N.sp.Doorman's Top #2 which has failed to thrive under my care over the course of 2-3 years. It has some strange environmental specifications that I can't figure out:




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    - Edit After checking AW's site and mksmith's post -

    N. sp. DT#1 is actually N. lamii.
    The former plants Labelled as N. lamii is N. monticola
    N. sp. DT#2 is still probably N. papuana!
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    This is what I understand:

    The plant previously sold as N. lamii is now described as N. monticola.

    The plant previous sold as N. doorman's Top 1 has now described as N. lamii.

    The plant sold as N. doorman's Top 2 is likely just N. papuana.

    So your plant is likely just Nepenthes papuana, closely related to Nepenthes neoguineensis, and can be found at elevations of 0 to 1300 m so you should try it in lowland conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mksmith View Post
    This is what I understand:

    The plant previously sold as N. lamii is now described as N. monticola.

    The plant previous sold as N. doorman's Top 1 has now described as N. lamii.

    The plant sold as N. doorman's Top 2 is likely just N. papuana.

    So your plant is likely just Nepenthes papuana, closely related to Nepenthes neoguineensis, and can be found at elevations of 0 to 1300 m so you should try it in lowland conditions.
    Yeah I'm growing it lowland now (well, clipeata-temps) now and it appears to have stopped trying to die, but I wouldn't necessarily say it's 'thriving'. I do think it's growing faster than hamiguitanensis though...

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