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    Because a hybrid is a combination of certain plants, for xTM it's any combination of macro and lowii. Anyone please correct me if I am mistaken.

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    if it were lowii X TM then wouldn't it be lowii X ( lowii X macrophylla)? Im talking about crossing a lowii with trusmadiensis (lowii X macrophylla) .


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    It would still be a TM Lance... Because the parents are still the same... Just a backcross...
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    What Peat said.

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    Trusmadiensis is either lowii x macrophylla or macrophylla x lowii and thats it. If you cross lowii x tm its a lowii x tm the only difference would be that the cross is 3/4 lowii and 1/4 macrophylla.

    There is no way in hell to get tm from crossing lowii x tm. There is no such thing as just because the parents are the same its a backcross and thus a tm. How a bout ventricosa x lowii x ventricosa? According to your reasoning its still a lowii x ventricosa because of backcrossing with vent and the parents are the same? The same applies to briggsiana

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    Kevnep, read this starting from reply 26. Natural Hybrids are looked at differently than man made hybrids. Lowii x TM would technically be a natural hybrid.
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    The reasoning for this is that we don't know the exact parents of the hybrid, it's parents could have been xTM And xTM or a macrophylla and a xTM, or even Some much more complex cross. You might say, but wait! We know the parentage... It's lowii x xTM, well we don't the exact parentage of the xTM clone because it's from wild collected seed.

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    I dont believe in that nonsense we know that most tms are lowii x macrophylla because rob collected lowii seeds and some macrophyllas were present at the location but it can clearly be seen that tms are not backcrosses themselves because they display equal lowii and macro traits thus if ep makes lowii x tm it is not a tm but a lowii cross tm

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