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    **need help** with mirabilis var echinostoma

    I rcd one about a week ago but it's not doing so well and need some friendly advice to help it recover.

    it is just starting to show some brown spots and most of the leaves are "droopy".

    I have a lowland terrarium with a small bical and raff var elongata in it and they are doing fine...however the nepenthes mirabilis var. echinostoma is a larger plant age wise. From talking with the previous owner the only difference in our terrariums is temp.....so I have taken steps to both reduce temp and I have increased the amount of time the air circulation fan is on to see if that helps it but i don't want to change things too much to risk upsetting the little ones.

    here is my usual info:

    daytime:

    hum: 80%

    temp: 94 F

    light: 10k lumens 6500k t5ho for 12h.

    night:

    hum: 80%

    temp: 80

    light: none

    watering frequency: as needed but usually once every 2-3 days.

    substrate: 1:1 spaghum peat/perlite

    air circulation: 90cfm 120mm fan on timer...comes on total of 4 hours a day.

    ill have some more solid night-time temps tonight.

    the raff and bical seem to enjoy the conditions.

    that's all the info i can think of atm. lmk if you need anything else. just want to add i don't have anything to measure ph or anything like that.

    1 more piece of info: way my terrarium is setup is there is 4 inches of water in the tank and a tray that brings the plants above water then another clear tray the plants sit in...there is no water in the try it is simply a means to prevent cross contamination should I overfill the tank accidentally.

    I have reduced daytime temp to 90f and will try for a goal of 85f.

    I have heard the plant likes it soggy; is that true? it was advised i drop the temp to 85....any other suggestions?

    Is what's happening "normal" when buying, repotting and attempting to acclimatize a med sized plant? longest leaves appear to be about 10 inches.

    According to internet searches I am providing it with the conditions that the species likes....only other thing I can think of is maybe my light intensity is too much.....perhaps I can put a plastic lid over the plan'ts spot in the terrarium to diffuse the light to it some.

    Lastly, say i make the right change to either temp, light intensity, humidity or whatever. How long will it take to notice that I am doing something right to get it on track?

    thx.bobby.
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    Mirabilis have pretty thin leaves, and tend to take things a little personally, in my experience. The brown spots, are they light brown or dark? It may be humidity shock from the transit. Do you have pictures?
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    They are light brown and a different pattern from what I am used to seeing. On the other 2 the browning was always dark and at the tips when the got pissy about being shipped and put in the terrarium...this one is very light brown and in the middle of the leaves with a pattern that reminds me of rust on metal.

    i have a couple thumbnails in the link but nothing of substance...ill work on that though.

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    What they say over there sounds right. I can't view the pictures there, I'm not a member. From what it looks like, it looks like the plant is being cranky. Make your adjustments and give it another week.
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    working on a pic u can see. how is this?

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    Sssssorta. I can see that there are discolored areas, but not enough detail to see of there is a pattern on them, or texture, or any other clues.
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    what do you need? a closer shot maybe?.... http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a1...6.jpg&newest=1

    seems photobucket want to auto crop but it can be downloaded and enlarged if you have irfanview or something like that.

    so all in all you think it will recover and just in shock? i'll do what i can to keep temps constant and hope for the best.
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    Looks to me like a typical Nepenthes mirabilis pouting where they look sorta "deflated" (make sure it has water of course). And yes, you'll probably loose many of the older leaves, that's just mirabilis's attitude to change. They don't even like being moved around in the same terrarium once they've settled into a particular humidity and lighting arrangement and found their happy place. Just keep it warm, humid and well lit and in time you should start getting new leaves and pitchers.

    I would not bother putting fans on my Lowlanders at all they get all the air exchange they need when the tank is opened and misted every so often. Play with ventilation to allow condensation on glass but not enough to allow fungal growth in soil, for me that's about a 95% sealed lid. They don't need any kind breeze like highlanders , think more along the lines of a hot steamy sauna to please the lowlanders.
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