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    cyclopse read it and weep!

    heres my list i just ordered
    (HIGHLAND)NEPENTHES MIX SEEDS
    Collect from West Sumatra
    - 50+ SEEDS -

    EACH VARIETY NOT LABELLED, RANDOM MIX IN 1 ZIPLOCK BAG

    MIX WILL CONTAIN :
    - N.TALANGENSIS
    - N. SINGALANA
    - N.NAGA
    - N.BONGSO
    - N.EUSTACHYA
    - N.ARISTOLOCHIOIDES
    - N.TOBAICA
    - N.NEOGUINEENSIS
    - N.MAXIMA
    - N.ALBOMARGINATA
    - AND MANY OTHER HIGHLAND HYBRIDS
    NEPENTHES MIX SEEDS
    Collect from Western Borneo ( Kalimantan )
    - 50+ SEEDS -

    EACH VARIETY NOT LABELLED, RANDOM MIX IN 1 ZIPLOCK BAG

    MIX WILL CONTAIN :
    - N.BICALCARATA
    - N.MIRABILIS ( Common )
    - N.RAFFLESIANA ( Common )
    - N.REINDWARDTIANA ( Common )
    - N.AMPULLARIA BLACK ( Common )
    - N.AMPULLARIA RED ( Common and Giant Form )
    - N.AMPULLARIA GREEN ( Common and Giant Form )
    - N.AMPULLARIA HOTLIPS ( Common and Giant Form )
    - N.AMPULLARIA SPOTTED ( Common and Giant Form )
    - N.GRACILIS ( Common and Giant Form )
    - N.RAFFLESIANA 'GLOSSY RED' var.GIANT
    - N.ALBOMARGINATA var.GIANT
    - N.NEOGUNEENSIS
    - N.KAMPOTIANA
    - AND MANY NICE HYBRIDS
    any care suggestions?

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    I'm seriously questioning this collector. N. maxima is from Sulawesi and New Guinea, N. neoguineensis is from New Guinea, N. kampotiana is from Cambodia, Thailand, and Vietnam. This guy doesn't know their geography.

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    Hmmm.... few red flags with this post. My first question would be how exactly these seeds were collected...? If they were collected from the wild without a permit than it is damaging the ecosystem and further threatening these already endangered plants, not to mention illegal. That would be called poaching... I have no knowledge of how exactly these were collected, as I don't know the seller, but if it was illegally than not only could you both face legal ramifications but it is also just morally wrong and very bad for these particular species of plants. My second question would be if you have the required documentation to import seeds (I'd bet they're not from the US). If not, ebay's policy states that the responsibility (or lack thereof..) of importing illegally falls upon the buyer. My third question is why you bought so many seeds if you need advice on how to care for them...? If you buy well over 100 nep seeds of various species, shouldn't you already be fairly familiar with germinating seeds...? Start small and build up on that, right? I certainly hope you have a large greenhouse/growtent because nep seeds require high amounts of light and humidity to sprout. There are many stickies and threads on this forum describing how to germinate nep seeds, I advise you to check them out. I do apologize if you've already gone over all this and stuff, it just jumped out at me a bit.
    Last edited by Iwest; 04-23-2013 at 10:08 PM.

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    To be honest, those seed packs are a big rip off on eBay. 50 seeds isn't that much... It will be hard to get just a couple to germinate IMO. Germinating tons of different species with different requirements together is disaster. Some may need to be cooler to germinate, some may need to be warmer. I can guarantee that some of those seeds are old and won't germinate. I ordered from Albermarelsounds on eBay last year. All of the seeds were supposedly less than a few months old, and still I got 0% germination after months and months.

    Also, I highly doubt you will get every species listed. Also, you could get 25 seeds of N. maxima and 2-3 seeds of the rest. There is so much room for them to trick you. How would you know until many years later when you have mature plants if they didn't send a species? Really easy false advertising for the seller.

    I'd say just give them the general care conditions that you would give for HL/intermediate in general and LL in general. Don't sow LL and HL together, that won't work out well. I tried different mediums and different potting methods. My suggestion is to spread them between two pots per pack (so 25 per pot) and use FINELY CHOPPED Sphagnum as a medium. It doesn't grow as much algae as peat in my experience. Don't use perlite, it is annoying. Never tried using sand. That's just what worked for me.

    Also, the ideal thing to do would be to get seeds from a fellow hobbyist. I have some seeds coming from someone in another country that I may be doing a giveaway with soon, and I also pollinated a Nepenthes flower of mine. If it produces seeds, I may do a giveaway of some of my portion of seeds I get (since 50% goes to the pollen donor)... So stay active on the forum for the next few months.

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    Aside from those geographical and potential ethical "issues" already mentioned, many of those lowland Nepenthes have seed -- especially N. ampullaria -- with a shelf-life which could be measured in terms of weeks.

    Caveat emptor . . .
    “Sì perché l'autorità dell'opinione di mille nelle scienze non val per una scintilla di ragione di un solo . . ."

    -- Galileo "Biff" Galilei

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    "13yroldexpert"

    I can't help but think this is just a joke.

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    Your right it's a joke but actually I have extremely good propagation records for many plants including. Nepenthes through cuttings

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    crappy joke
    why do you come here and make a thread like this first thing lol nice introduction

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