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    hamata help!

    Hey members

    I've have been having a devil of a time getting N. hamatas to thrive. I have over 200 Nepenthes species and hybrids, including about 6 hamata hybrids all of which are growing like mad!, but for some reason, I'm failing when it comes to growing N. hamatas species.

    I believe I'm supplying the correct humidity levels, but I don't know if it's my growing media, temp or both. I've been able to keep the day temps between 80's, but my evening summer temps don't get any lower the low 70's.

    As for my media, I have tried a mix of LSM, Fir bark, perlite, mesh pots, and there seems to be no real root growth.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks


    John
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurphysLaw View Post
    I've been able to keep the day temps between 80's, but my evening summer temps don't get any lower the low 70's.
    John
    I think that pretty much points to the main problem right there.

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    I've tried to get the temp down at night, I even invented a mini swamp cooler, but I can only get it down about 10 degrees lower than ambient. I'm just not setup for refrigeration.

    So it is the lack of really cool night time temps that is the problem?!
    Last edited by MurphysLaw; 08-19-2013 at 06:01 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurphysLaw View Post
    I have over 200 Nepenthes species and hybrids...
    Paul is probably correct. What other HL Neps are you growing? My hamata's are not close to being the touchiest species I'm growing....
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    Do you want to see my list ;-)

    Here are the main ones, not including cuttings and seedlings

    N. singalana (Beilarang)
    N. hamata ...................... (the problem ones)
    N. gymnamphora (Dieng Mtns)
    N. maxima?
    N. jamban .............................. (Also a problem one)
    N. naga
    N. rhombicaulis malesiana
    N. fusca (flared paristome)
    N. burkei
    N. sanguinea
    N. sibuyanensis
    N. ramispina
    N. ventricosa
    N. gracilis
    N. alata
    N. ampullaria 'Spotted Brunei'
    N. ampullaria 'Brunei Green'
    N. ampullaria 'Lime Twist'
    N. ampullaria 'Harlequin'
    N. rafflesiana
    N. gracilis nigra-purpurea
    N. bicalcarata (Red Flush)
    N. bicalcarata 'SARAWAK GIANT RED'
    N. bicalcarata (Red Fangs)
    N. ventricosa x aristolochioides
    N. ventricosa x (inermis x bongso)
    N. spathulata x spectabilis
    N. spathulata x truncata
    N. spectabilis x aristolochioides
    N. ventricosa x hamata
    N. spathulata x hamata
    N. singalana x aristolochioides
    N. talangensis x hamata
    N. hamata x platychila
    N. spathulata x diatas
    N. gracillima x ventricosa (Rebecca Soper)
    N. spathulata x aristolochiodes
    N. hirsuta x spathulata
    N. burbidgeae x edwardsiana
    N. inermis x talangensis
    N. burbidgeae x platychila
    N. fusca x veitchii x Mt. Copelandi
    N. aristolochioides x (ventricosa 'Red' x talangensis)
    N. veitchii x spathulata (Judith Finn)
    N. petiolata x trusmadiensis
    N. lowii x campanulata
    N. (maxima x northiana) x maxima (x Miranda)
    N. ventricosa x alata (x Ventrata)
    N. ventricosa x maxima (Red Leopard)
    N. fusca x maxima (Velvet)
    N. viking x ampullaria
    N. mirabilis var. globosa 'Viking'
    N. mirabilis var globosa
    N. boschiana
    N. spatulata x maxima
    N. talangensis x maxima 'Lady Pauline'
    N. burbidgeae
    N. aristolochioides x ventricosa
    N. splendiana x mixta
    N. Toyo x (Thorelli x Trumadiensis)
    N. aristo x ventricosa
    N. mirabilis var. globosa 'Viking'
    N. belli x ventricosa
    N. ventricosa x talangensis
    N. thorelii x (eymae x veitchii 'giant peristome')
    N. lowii x campanulata
    N. lowii trusmadi
    N. spathulata x aristolochiodes
    N. ampullaria 'Red Spotted'
    N. spectabilis x mira
    N. x hookeriana
    N. (spathulata x aristolochioides) x platychyla
    N. petiolata x spectabilis
    N. sibuyanensis x Lady Pauline (talangensis x maxima)BE-TC
    N. clipeata x (clipeata x eymae)
    N. splendiana’[smilesii (or kampotiana) x mirabilis]
    N. clipeata x (clipeata x eymae)
    N. singalana x hamata
    N. carunculata var robusta x hamata
    N. reinwardtiana (Mt Sago)
    N. Viking x ampullaria
    N. burbridgea
    N. inermis x bongso
    N. singalana (Belirang)
    N. spectabilis x burkei
    N. splendiana x (veitchii x maxima) x veitchii
    N. rokko (thorelii x maxima)
    N. northiana
    N. spectabilis x hamata
    N. x hookeriana
    N. raffleisiana Indonesia
    N. Viking x rafflesiana (Dark)
    N. pectinata (Purple)
    N. pectinata Purple x truncata
    ... and I have had these growing for a number of years!

    I know, I'm frustrated, Since I know they need a cool night time temp. I would like to move them outdoors, since our night time temps get in the low 50's. but I haven't planned or saved for a greenhouse yet.
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    Agreed. Temperature is your problem. If you can get your temps to at least the lower 60's at night, and keep them below 80 during the day, that should do them a lot of good. How you achieve those temps is up to you. I bought a used AC unit for $40 which I use to cool down my highland plants, and it works well

    Edit:
    Pics might be helpful too, if you can supply a couple
    Best of luck!
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    Look this guy up on Facebook. He is the king of N. hamata!!
    http://www.facebook.com/NepenthesHamata

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    id say yes, its the lack of cool nights. hamata hybrids are so much easier going than the species. not very good measuring sticks to compare the pure hamata with

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