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Thread: N. ventricosa x robcantleyi

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    Would growing conditions including 75-60 degree F temps, and about 40-60% humidity be good for either of them?
    If Swiss Cheese has holes, and more holes=less cheese, and more cheese=more holes, does that mean that more cheese=less cheese?

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    yeah, are there decent dips in temp at night?

    my neps were slowly hardened off so low humidity doesnt bother em much at all. just gotta ease them into such conditions slowly

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    I have one... I got it for $24.75 I think. I know where you can get one and I could PM you if you'd like... If they don't have any left right now, they might have more in early Spring.

    I've kept robcantleyi before and seen them even in flawless conditions, and they seem EXTREMELY fussy... Like more fussy than any other Nepenthes. They're probably more fit for the terrarium environment, as mine hated my winter temperatures. Ventricosa x rob, on the other hand, is much easier. Mine often dries out and keeps on growing and producing nice pitchers. It's also right by the door of the greenhouse, so temperature and humidity swings much more from day to night and season to season. It grows quite fast, as well.

    Contrary to what Paul said, I kinda enjoy mine. It isn't my favorite, but it my be a personal opinion thing. I like it because it has the ventricosa shape with bigger pitchers and a more fleshy peristome. However, you'll only get that when the plant is mature, which will take a while.

    It's definitely not a hybrid to stress over, though. There are much nicer hybrids. This one will likely only look nice when producing upper pitchers, and I think there are many different clones of the hybrid... So even if you do find one online, you may end up with an ugly one.

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    If you could PM me where you got it, that'd be great. I don't know why, but I just really like the color of the pitcher when next to the color of the peristome for some reason, and I personally think it's worth the wait to grow.
    If Swiss Cheese has holes, and more holes=less cheese, and more cheese=more holes, does that mean that more cheese=less cheese?

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    After seeing this thread, I did some research and discovered that crosses with N. rob. seem result in a wider range of offspring, in terms of characteristics, than crosses with other Neps. Or, at least, I saw a few threads to that effect. So, perhaps, it has more to do with the luck of the draw for any one plant than for other crosses.

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    I'm with NatchGreyes, from the many rc hybrids that i've seen online and a few in person, the desired characteristics were too often washed out or watered down, to a point where I personally wouldnt chance buying an rc hybrid, I would probably have to buy 10 seedling clones in order to get one that looks desirable. There seems to be a very wide pool of variability, more than would normally occur with F1's, which in some ways can lead to the taboo assumption that the make up of rc is more complex than is currently accepted.
    I love the smell of nep pollen in the morning..........smells like victory

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    I would suggest, for anyone buying a N. rob. hybrid to first get pictures of the plant with mature pitchers. Much like N. viking (see Sunbelle Exotic's breakdown of that species), it seems like someone will, at some point, start classifying the N. rob. hybrids according to their characteristics. I think it would be really interesting to see the variability of the hybrids, and lead to new information about N. rob.

    (On a separate note, anyone know of where I can get an N. rob. for less than $100 or in trade. PM me, please).

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    Mostly, I'm looking to purchase the BE 3407 clone, which should be entirely universal in appearance, if I'm not mistaken. Anyways, I'm still most likely going to end up purchasing the spathulata x robcantleyi from California Carnivores, anyways
    If Swiss Cheese has holes, and more holes=less cheese, and more cheese=more holes, does that mean that more cheese=less cheese?

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