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    Quote Originally Posted by nillsx View Post
    It's some of the best water in the world(that i read). In Sweden we have laws for sorting and recycling. So the purity it's absolutely top. I can try distilled water! I'm all open for new methods!
    I have plastic pots with drain witch i could use in my main pot. I can replant it when i get home from work! Do i need to flush the plant even thou I replant it with the plastic?
    Thank you much for taking time.
    Yes, I was researching and it may be very pure. I don't know how pure that is, because "pure" can mean anything when used as a marketing term. It is best to test your water with a TDS meter and if it is too high, filter it or switch to distilled water. I use a "Watermaker Mini" for my water, it's very cheap and connects to the sink.

    So, the 3 problems right now we are looking at are:

    1. Temperature drop at night. These plants grow in conditions where they get cold at night, so you absolutely must get them colder at night when you grow them. They will die if they do not get the temperature drop. I do not htink it has to be excessive, but it has to at least be a little bit so the plant feels comfortable.

    Apparently, 7-18C at nigt and 18-27C during the day is good? According to The Savage Garden, around 24-27C during the day, 10-16C during the night. You don't have to hit this exactly, but that is the kind of temperature drops we are talking about.

    2. Undrained container. Their roots will rot if they stand in water too long. This is why you must have a pot with drainage, you must let all the water fall out the bottom holes, and just let the soil be damp.

    3. Possibly bad water. If the water is very bad, then it simply must not be used. If it is ok but not great, then when the water evaporates it leaves the salt and minerals behind. That means that the soil gets progressively more salt and minerals in it over time. When this happens you'll see your plants do very well for a while, then suddenly they will start doing very bad very quickly.

    The drainage helps with this, because you can pour water in the pot and let it flow out the bottom. It will take out the salt and mineral residue as it goes. You can even do this with Distilled water (~0 TDS) every so often.


    That is what I would suggest. Repot your plant in a plastic container that will fit in your ceramic container, treating the ceramic container as a giant saucer. When you do, I would wash the ceramic container out, and then pour water through the plastic container so that anything that built up is flushed out the bottom. I would do this until you think you have done it too much, then do it for a little bit longer.

    Make sure you get the plants as much light as possible, and make sure they get a drop in temperature at night. When watering from now on (every 2-3 days), take the plastic pot out of the ceramic pot, water it until water drains out the bottom, wait until it is only dripping and not flowing, and put it back in the Ceramic container.

    With any luck, they will recover.

    Now, you asked about nutrition earlier... no. Do not fertilize your plant. Some people use specialty plant food but that requires a very specific type and technique to doing it. Later on, you can use certain types of fish food (which is dried bugs! ) and put them in the pitchers, but not yet.

    You mention using pebbles in your soil, which might be ok... I don't use them though. My Neps are in 100% sphagnum. Many do 1.1 sphagnum and perlite, others include bark and the like. The problem is that pebbles are basically little mineral pills.

    I did find this man in Sweden's website for Carnivorous Plants: http://www.murevarn.se/

    He may be able to give you information on how good the water is in your area.

    There is also this bit of information I found: http://linnaeus.nrm.se/flora/kottata.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by nillsx View Post
    My AC can go down to 42-43F at the lowest. It's a small room, and yes you are right it takes a bit time to get the room so cold. Well i will at-least try it. Yeah it sure didn't sound like this hard there i bought this.
    Another issue with ACs is that they dry the air as well, highland nepenthes need cold AND humid environments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nannanep View Post
    I live in Denmark, and I think our water situation is probably similar. While we too tend to be very proud of our water, which is very good drinking water as is (with no need to add things like chlorine), it is "hard" water, which means it has high levels of calcium for example. I know in some areas of Sweden there is quite a lot of iron in the water, too. So yeah, like others have said: what defines "good water" depends completely on the context - drinking water or CP water or whatever. (:
    (I use rainwater for my plants)
    I think it's pretty similar to. I didn't know that about hard water. Live really south. Almost next to DK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nillsx View Post
    I think it's pretty similar to. I didn't know that about hard water. Live really south. Almost next to DK.
    Hm, apparently some areas of Sweden have hard water and some "soft", check this out http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vattenh...tnet_i_Sverige

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcantrell View Post
    Yes, I was researching and it may be very pure. I don't know how pure that is, because "pure" can mean anything when used as a marketing term. It is best to test your water with a TDS meter and if it is too high, filter it or switch to distilled water. I use a "Watermaker Mini" for my water, it's very cheap and connects to the sink.

    http://linnaeus.nrm.se/flora/kottata.html
    I have now bought a TDS meter online. I did check out the Watermaker Mini and I liked it. But i will first test water before i buy.
    1: The temp drop will get arranged tonight.
    2: They have stood in a bit of water so i hope that i can save them now.
    3: Yepp you are right, That is a thing that i will check today with my water company. How come they don't like minerals? Maybe dumb question.

    I'm really grateful for all the good advice and the time you put in here! I have really learned much today!
    I will replant it later and flush it like crazy! I maybe even add a photo later on in the days if it shown signs on getting better!
    I only have sun here for like 10-12 H. I'm actually thinking of buying some extra light. And yes i can water it like that in the future!

    At what stage should i wait to buy this fish food?.
    Ohh i see, were i bought this he said that it was needed to get in air in the roots better. I can replant in just sphagnum if you consider this to be most optimal! As I have said, i gladly try new methods!
    I will write to this guy and see if I get a reply.
    Thank you for all that information! Really helpful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nannanep View Post
    Hm, apparently some areas of Sweden have hard water and some "soft", check this out http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vattenh...tnet_i_Sverige
    I have read and that's correct. There i live we apparently have soft water!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heli View Post
    Another issue with ACs is that they dry the air as well, highland nepenthes need cold AND humid environments.
    Do you recommend ultrasonic fogger?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nillsx View Post
    Do you recommend ultrasonic fogger?
    Yes, an ultrasonic humidifier will provide the humidity the AC takes away.

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