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    Nepenthes Nomenclature

    I don't get it. Several of the entries don't even have photos. There is no such thing as N. x platychila, this is not a nothospecies with an "x" preceding its name, it is a full on species, Nepenthes platychila.

    And, the name is N. thorelii x (x trusmadiensis), not N. thorelii x xTrusmadiensis. [though N. x trusmadiensis is not an accepted name, it is actually, N. macrophylla x lowii]
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    http://pitcherplants.proboards.com/t...hila-revisited you might find this interesting Joseph,it seems that the N.platychila that are available are not pure species because they are proved not to breed true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corky View Post
    http://pitcherplants.proboards.com/t...hila-revisited you might find this interesting Joseph,it seems that the N.platychila that are available are not pure species because they are proved not to breed true.r
    In which case perhaps N. platychila ? would be the better designation,
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    Probably Nan,it would make more sense to me, maybe its because there is speculation as to if the original seed parent was pure
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    Sure, but putting the "x" before the species epithet, is the way to denote that it is a nothospecies, which it is not.
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    Well now that we've trounced on this thread

    Here's Ch'ien Lee's description of the species:
    http://www.biodiversitylibrary.org/p...e/277/mode/1up

    FWIW: The Kew Plant List gives the species name status as unresolved and still in review by the World Checklist of Select Plant Families:
    http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2383370
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    Well you have to look hard to find a name that is not unresolved!http://www.theplantlist.org/1.1/brow...eae/Nepenthes/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not a Number View Post
    In which case perhaps N. platychila ? would be the better designation,
    How can you be sure that the mother plant is N. platychila?

    It could just as easily be N.(fusca x platychila) x parentage or N. Platy [not a valid Nepenthes species, and certainly not with an initial cap used for its spelling] x {N. fusca x N. (veitchii x platy [again, "platy" is not the name of any Nepenthes species, if you mean, N. platychila, you really should spell it out, completely - this forum can have a much wider audience, than you may assume. There is room for plenty of discussion, even if we just use the names as they have been published. Without the need to make it even more controversial.]}
    Exotica Plants (EP), believe they found all three of these species in the mix via the breeding program.
    The point is N. platy [again, "platy" is not a published Nepenthes species name] is a dominant parent, something that has been established via EP's breeding with N. rajah, N. villosa and N. maxima, so ultimately there's no real way to know the parentage of the BE [an undefined abbreviation or acronym] TC plants, labeling then " N. Platy [not a valid Nepenthes species, and certainly not with an initial capital used for its spelling] x " is a bit too convenient in my opinion.
    Last edited by Joseph Clemens; 02-03-2015 at 06:21 PM. Reason: Nomenclature - undefined abbreviation
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