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Thread: N. robcantleyi gender?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip_Side_the_Pint View Post
    Any pics of the whole plant?
    The plant is in the middle of a tank with a vining SG N. hamata & many Orchidioides - no way to see the entire plant. Here's one of the pitchers:


    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu138 View Post
    Much better off tracking down a male of the species. Good luck Ron, I'm sure there must be some adult males in bloom at this point.
    Obviously that's my preference. However, I may also consider pollen (assuming it is female) from other Neps w/ large, flaring peristomes (N. veitchii, ovata, singalana, etc)
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerMuncherIV View Post
    Female robcantleyi, wow! Imagine the possibilities with that plant! I hope you can find a male soon.
    Actually, 98% of the robcantleyi hybrids produced to date are quite uninteresting. Some are downright homely - yes - I'm looking at you, ventricosa x robcantleyi. Early on, I acquired several assorted hybrids. My greenhouse contains only one at this point, and its days are numbered too (Its only there because I can't easily untangle it from its immediate neighbor). I've come to the conclusion that this species is a very poor breeder when mated with most any other plant.

    That said, while its always worth producing more seed grown plants of any species, BE produced several thousand seed-grown plants of it and they are still finding their way into collections. I suspect they achieved market saturation, so making more plants from seed may be an interesting exercise, but unlikely to be of great $$ value.
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    I agree that many N. robcantleyi hybrids tend to be...less spectacular than their parents, although there are some that I can appreciate (talangensis x robcantleyi, burbidgeae x robcantleyi, and hamata x robcantleyi are some of the better ones in my opinion). Regardless of that though, N. robcantleyi is probably extinct in the wild, and it's exciting to see someone with the means to produce more of this species. Although BE has produced thousands of plants and the market price will probably take a nose dive in the future like you said (I'm still seeing N. robcantleyi going for $100s, for now at least), it's more of a conservation thing to me than a monetary thing. It reminds me of situations with plants like Sarracenia jonesii - decently widespread in cultivation and not worth large amounts of money in the trade, but still valuable due to the state of populations in the wild. When I see huge amounts of endangered species being produced in captivity, it's not breeding or market values that come to my mind first, it's the conservation value. Even if these plants cannot be reintegrated into the wild, it's comforting to know that we will have a large and stable population in reserve for generations to come.
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    looks like its been rediscovered , great news. As for its hybrids been not as nice as the parents, I would say the same goes for hamata or a nice candy striped veitchii but just an opinion . Hope you find a suitable mate

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    Hi corky, which book is the text and photo from, cheers

    Mark

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    Hi Mark , it was in the spring addition of the CPS Plantacarnivora, think its a UK publication , very good article that was the summary by dr Martin cheek (probably already broke a copyright)

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    Quote Originally Posted by corky View Post
    As for its hybrids been not as nice as the parents, I would say the same goes for hamata or a nice candy striped veitchii but just an opinion . Hope you find a suitable mate
    Indeed, veitchii hybrids are so bland.

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    I would like to see a veichii x ramispina or maybe lingulata hybrid.. Havent seen any of those.
    My friend had one growing from seed got about 4inch leaf span and produced one full sized mini pitcher that was long and dark purplish but then the plant died off from some kind of pest infestation. I was very dissapointed. But i haven't seen any good crosses with this plant of recent .. A few are okay looking but never as great as you'd think they'd be. But with plants its a genetic roll of the dice u never know

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