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N. clipeatas

thez_yo

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One of the earliest plants I bought was an N.clipeata clone U from AW over in Germany, fall of 2009. Nearly seven years later, it's still a runt, and the slowest plant I've had the pleasure of growing:

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In comparison, a clone 3 I bought a couple years later from AW:
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And a N.clipeata x (clipeata x eymae) (supposedly clone 1? What a messy history.) from stateside here:
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Have you tried using the coffee method?
 
Have you tried using the coffee method?

Yup, some plants are just really painfully slow. It's known that clone U grows at a glacial pace. Maybe in another seven years mine might actually reach a foot in height.
 
geez that's slow, even with using the coffee method
 
Well good things come to those who wait and your plants look well cared for.
 
Coffee is highly debatable as to whether or not it's helpful (and after several years of thinking it was doing good I now fall into the opposite opinion); on a different note, really wish I still had my clip x (clip x eymae), that hybrid is so nice. The funky leaf and pitcher shape of pure clipeata is just perfect too.
 
Wow your clipeata is a giant compaired to mine. Got my 2 clones back in Mar 2014 from Wistuba. Easily my favorite Nepenthes, I actually like the slow growing compactness of this species.

My clone 3 is growing so much better than my U clone. I recently pulled the 1/4" of random mosses off the "top medium" and replaced it with turface so they both had a mini fit.

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Sam Estes in Hawaii has a monsterously-sized clipeata in his collection that I'm estimating to be 300 years old, in comparison to the growth rate I see out of mine :-)) I'm actually appreciating it now that it's 7 years in my care, and I didn't just have to chop 2 meters off of it like, say, platychila.
 
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A slow but steady grower, I've had this plant since 2012/2013 (before I started keeping detailed records) and it limped along in my highland rack for several years, growing into quite a large plant but never doing well. I removed a basal that did very well in a small lowland setup so I moved the mother plant into the tank (and replanted the basal into this pot) and it's growing better than ever.

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The hardest part about this species is certainly growing it out from a TC explant to about 4 inches across -- after that it's slow but much hardier. Still definitely my favorite species.
 
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Coffee is highly debatable as to whether or not it's helpful (and after several years of thinking it was doing good I now fall into the opposite opinion); on a different note, really wish I still had my clip x (clip x eymae), that hybrid is so nice. The funky leaf and pitcher shape of pure clipeata is just perfect too.

Hey H, mind elaborating on why you feel coffee is bad vs good (as you did intitially)? Over load on organic material that becomes metabolized by unwanted organisms?
 
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Yes, in some cases there were issues with the plants after using coffee (perhaps it was acting more as an algae fertilizer), but mostly I just ended up not seeing any difference between coffee treated plants and non-treated, so I stopped using it.
 
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A slow but steady grower, I've had this plant since 2012/2013 (before I started keeping detailed records) and it limped along in my highland rack for several years, growing into quite a large plant but never doing well. I removed a basal that did very well in a small lowland setup so I moved the mother plant into the tank (and replanted the basal into this pot) and it's growing better than ever.

The hardest part about this species is certainly growing it out from a TC explant to about 4 inches across -- after that it's slow but much hardier. Still definitely my favorite species.

I like the 'weed' in that pot :-O

I've got what I'd call a monsterously-sized clippy clone U pitcher a brewing... I can't wait til it opens up!
 
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I like the 'weed' in that pot :-O

I've got what I'd call a monsterously-sized clippy clone U pitcher a brewing... I can't wait til it opens up!

Thanks Zu, it's a Paphiopedilum amabile (=bullenianum?), which grows sympatrically on Kelam with N. clipeata as per this photo by Ch'ien Lee.

In other news, pure N. clipeata seed was recently produced between an AW plant from a Canadian grower and the famous wild-sourced female N. clipeata at the Hyogo Flower Center in Japan! Much more exciting than the planned release of new N. clipeata clones from BE several years back (which never happened apparently :().
 
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Nice and nice!!
 
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Yes, in some cases there were issues with the plants after using coffee (perhaps it was acting more as an algae fertilizer), but mostly I just ended up not seeing any difference between coffee treated plants and non-treated, so I stopped using it.

A good rinsing with water a day or two after any coffee application should or event any algal buildup in any quick-draining media. I had a similar algal issue with MaxSea, even with thorough rinsing, and have stopped using that . . .
 
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Never had an issue with Maxsea, but then I don't apply it to the soil. I also grow many (not all) of my Nepenthes in undrained pots in an indoor greenhouse and my dry climate and bad tap water limit application of water, so I don't have the option of regularly flushing out those pots that are drained.
 
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What a gorgeous species. Thanks for the pics guys. I gotta get one!
 
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Soooo good. It's almost growing like a normal Nepenthes and actually increasing pitcher size!

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Awesome Clipeata's Zuzana, must have taken a hundred years to get it from wistuba size to this
 
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