User Tag List

Informational! Informational!:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 9 to 16 of 23

Thread: Help! "Sweating" nepenthes!!!

  1. #9
    Tony Paroubek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Far Away NY
    Posts
    4,640
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    hmm sunken dents in a leaf could be caused by a number of things that occured while the leaf was developing and expanding. Basically the leaf failed to expand its tissue in that area. Damage (mechanical, insect), moisture stress, extreamly cold/hot water hitting a temperature sensitive plant .. that kind of thing.

    Raised bumps could be glands in the leaf/tendril/pitcher.. many Nepenthes have them. If I recall bicalcarata they even look black. They could also be caused by some localized damage while the leaf was developing also.
    Tony

  2. #10
    Nepenthes Specialist nepenthes gracilis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Alexandria Bay, NY Z-5a
    Posts
    6,341
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks Tony. It is probably temp. or humidity. But now I may know how to resist it. My merrilliana has none!Only the N.VeitchiixTruncata an my N.Truncata has them. And get this! My N.Ventricosa grows side by side with the Nep. Hybrid! And it has NO bumps! Is there something it can resist that the other cannot?

  3. #11
    Tony Paroubek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Far Away NY
    Posts
    4,640
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Sure different species(and hybrids) can handle similiar stresses differently. What might be a near death shock to one plant might not even affect the plant next to it. Ventricosa is a very tough plant to many environmental conditions in part because it is has a thick hard leaf encased in a thick cuticle.
    Tony

  4. #12
    Nepenthes Specialist nepenthes gracilis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Alexandria Bay, NY Z-5a
    Posts
    6,341
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Well that explians it. And this I just noticed may help us further be + on identifying the Nep. Hybrid. Since the N.Truncata from Catalani has the bumps on it's leaves AND the hybrid does too maby we are exactly right about 1 parent of the cross! The truncat has bumps and so does the hybrid!!!! AND the leaves are similar to Veitchii AND we already think it has Veitchii influence in it! Man! This search is getting exciting!!!

  5. #13
    Tony Paroubek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Far Away NY
    Posts
    4,640
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    I am deffinately convinced the hybrid has truncata and veitchii. But the question for me is whether or not it has something else also.. or if its something like truncata x veitchii crossed again to veitchii..
    Tony

  6. #14
    Nepenthes Specialist nepenthes gracilis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2001
    Location
    Alexandria Bay, NY Z-5a
    Posts
    6,341
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    SO your saying it may be N.TruncataxVeitchiixVeitchii? Pretty coll Tony! Why do you think so though? DOes it show more of a Veitchii parentage in it than Truncata? Besides the Veitchii parentage we definatly know that the Red Peristome comes from TRuncata RIght?

  7. #15
    Moderator Cindy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2001
    Location
    Singapore
    Posts
    2,435
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Thanks Tony! You are great. I finally do not have to fret over those braille dots! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

  8. #16
    Tony Paroubek's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2001
    Location
    Far Away NY
    Posts
    4,640
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    The leaves holler veitchii while the pitcher is very truncata. What is surprising is that usually with a simple primary hybrid between two species the offspring are fairly uniform. The other truncata x veitchii that I have seen show much more truncata influence in the leaves. Truncata hybrids I have seen usually show a strong influence in the leaves. This plant has much more veitchii influence showing, which leads me to suspect that there is the possibility that it is more than just truncata x veitchii, and since the plant is very veitchii looking I would tend towards a second shot of veitchii or something similar. Since I have only seen a few plants of truncata x veitchii my experience with the range of characteristics the offspring show is very limited. Ideally one would want to look at hundreds of plants of the same cross to get a reasonable idea of what to expect the leaves and pitchers will look like. I do think that your plant is not producing mature pitchers yet. It takes a long time for veitchii's flairing peristome to become evident. (which leads to even more difficulty with Nepenthes on how they change as they mature and grow. What might appear to be one cross as a young plant might look like a different cross when it matures)

    As for the red peristome, veitchii can have red (although usually not solid red) peristome and truncata can have a solid red peristome.
    Tony

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Nepenthes truncata "Queen of Hearts" x "King of Spades"
    By BigBella in forum Tropical Pitcher Plants  (Nepenthes)
    Replies: 23
    Last Post: 03-02-2011, 07:25 PM
  2. Heliamphora sp. "Akopan," "Amuri," "Angasima" . . .
    By BigBella in forum Pitcher Plants: (Sarracenia, Heliamphora, Darlingtonia, Cephalotus)
    Replies: 26
    Last Post: 10-14-2009, 02:34 AM
  3. Replies: 12
    Last Post: 07-29-2008, 06:33 PM
  4. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-26-2008, 11:06 AM
  5. Replies: 7
    Last Post: 07-07-2008, 12:30 PM

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •