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    It seems like all the hybrids from Holland are of unkown parentage [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img] .

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    Involving N. fusca? Hmm... that could explain the long skinny pitchers. Maybe I'll try a cutting in the highland tank and see what happens!

    Sounds like the Dutch (who are very meticulous in their aquarium plant hobby going as far as desiging tank plantings with protractors, the rule of 5:3 "golden intersection/visual center", 3rds and all that...) maybe aren't so in their other plant hobbies! I contacted a dutch firm who sells TC flats of Nepenthes 'Velvet' but the email was returned due to their server being shut down...

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    it seems everything nep hybrid from holland is unknown , same thing with x gentle , i wonder why , probably the propagators get mixed up with the foreighn languages [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

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    I think it more has to do with who is running these places. The paid workers are likely not Nep fanatics like us who record every detail of our plants. Their focus is creating easy growing hybrids that are marketable to the impulse purchasers in the tropical plant gardening market.
    Independent greenhouses who propagate specific plants such as Neps (or orchids or anything else) and hobbyists who create hybrids generally do far better record keeping. Secrecy of their hybrid program may also be part of the lack of information on their plants.
    The two name Latin identification system is the same worldwide and is used as the standard mode of identification for plants, fish, mammals, reptiles... all life on earth. When reffered to in it's two name title, the object in question will be the same anywhere in the world. However, common names applied to things such as "crimson pitcher plant" or "jewled lizard" mean different things depending upon the region in the world you are in.

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    These plants from Holland are not named according to "the rules", but most Nepenthes crosses aren't either. The plants coming from these large TC nurseries are intended to be sold in garden centers around the world and are easy growers under a wide range of conditions. I don't know what 'Velvet' looks like, but it is probably one or the other of two choices: the N. 'Corn.bak' plant, which appears to be a cross of N. maxima x N. fusca, or @. the N. 'Miranda' plant which appears to be a Mixta hybrid, possibly maxima x mixta.
    Remember, these tc Neps are produced from seed. Neps cannot be mericloned like orchids, at least not on a large scale, so they are all the result of cross pollination. The N. coccinea is probably tissue cultured from seed produced by crossing a male N. coccinea onto a female coccinea. Thousands of identical clones are produced from one seed. Usually the plants are tested before they are put out into the marketplace, and these Dutch produced hybrids are beautiful and vigorous. I find they produce more ground shoots than average, and thrive in a wide range of conditions.
    Trent

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