Well, out of curiosity, how large are yours. If you reply, please give diameter/leaf span and pitcher size. Please reply before noon tomorrow, as I will be heading up to Chicago soon after to catch a flight, and will be without a comp. and the internet for a while. But still continue to reply to my other questions. Thank you [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] !