Today I visited the vp of the Sandiego Carnivorous Plant Society( the website is He had a great collection, with a huge truncata that he feeds mice to. He gave me cuttings of N. maxima x ventricosa, and alata( lots of red on the pitchers). He also offered me cuttings of coccinea( didn't exept because it's a lowland), and thorelli x truncata( didn't exept because it wasn't rooted, and may have gotten damaged on my long trip back to Alaska). He even offered me a ventrata, witch I forgot to pick up( dohh&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img].