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    I just got my permit and I didn't get any stickers with it.All I got was seven little green and yellow tags. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]
    I know I got the right permit, but I don't know what to do with these little tags. Can anyone help me out here? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

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    Mike [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Mike,

    Yeah, I can tell you where to put those stickers....
    Actually, what you do with them is send one to whatever foreign nursery you are purchasing from and they stick it on the box of plants you are getting, for quick reference for USDA inspectors. Malesiana Tropicals requires me to send a copy of my permit(I fax it to them).
    Funny thing, I just found out I have the wrong permit, so now I have to get another to get CITES plants(Nepenthes).

    Regards,

    Joe

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    Hey Joe what permit do you have? I have form PPQ 597 it came with the stickers/tags as well as a large packet of CITES information. When I requested my permit I listed all the plant families asw ell as countries of import orgin I intended to import in hopes they would send me the correct paperwork.

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    I did the same thing, and I don't want to wait another two + weeks to get the freaking stickers [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] . Exotica Plants isn't even holding my plants anymore [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] . Was I supposed to put what country the plants were grown in, or endemic to? Whyyy.

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    When you're filing for your permit it asks which countries you will be importing from and another section asks what plants you intent to import. I used a seperate sheet and typed out all the genus' of plants which I may eventually import (even if I have no immediate plans to buys those plants now) and the addresses of each supplier or at least the names of countries I may eventually accuire plants from.

    Basically find the correct form on the USDA website and give them as complete information that you can so they know exactly what you want from them.

    You ask "whyyy." These are rare and endangered species in the wild and they want to be sure that these plants were not poached from their natural sites. It is fairly obvious if you have a plant in a sterile flask or a 1" seedling that they were not plucked from the wild but artificially produced. However, these are the rules the customs/feds have in place to protect the plants. These people are hardcore and are not going to bend just a little for anyone who claims they just "didn't know". When dealing with them it pays to do things exactly by the book cos they like to say: "Ignorance of the law is no excuse".

    I received some invitro VFTs and Drosera (still in vials today) before I had my permit but I was under the impression I didn't need any of that stuff if they were still sealed in sterile vials. I was wrong but I was also lucky. Any plant material entering the USA must 1st arrive at a recipient who has a permit. If you work through a foreign plant supplier who has a US representitive then you won't have to fuss with all this.

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    Well, I know I have the right permit, so I guess I haveto wait for the stickers. Just taking too long...

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    Nathaniel, the stickers should of came w/ your permit and other paper work. call the ladie back up and find out what happened to them. they might of forgot to put them in with the stuff.
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    Sorry to say that is not the right permit. it's the same one I currently had(and yes, I had to call twice to get those stickers you mentioned).
    The permit you need is general permit PPQ 621, for CITES plants. the one you have allows you to import all other but CITES. It takes 10-15 days for the 621 to be issued and is valid for two years. The cost is $70. The USDA was nice enough(for once) to give me a break on the last batch I got and push it through, but if I do it again without a 621, I am in deep doo-doo, as they have my name flagged. I have a order at Malesiana ready to go, but I can't pay for it without physically having the permit, because that is cheating in the eyes of the USDA. With my case on that $2500, I was waiting for the permit to arrive(It had been issued days before the plants were nabbed) when the guy just went ahead and mailed them. I had sent payment before physcially having the permit.
    In short, please don't get impatient, as it is just not worth it. Get the right permit in your hands before you do the ordering.

    Regards,

    Joe

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