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    Here you go. Got a picture of a mature pitcher close up. Hope this helps [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Copper, reddening of leaves is good, all my new plants turn red when they arrive until they acclimate to my growing chambers. Only burning (brown and crispy like autumn leaves) is bad. Nothing wrong with the red coloration, which BTW is a chemical created by the plant as an aide to block bright light. Only the old leaves will be that mottled red color, the new leaves formed under the bright light will be stronger and normal green but may continue to have a pink tinge when they mature (depending upon species). The new leaves under the brighter light may be slightly smaller and thicker at first but the pitchers can be far more substantial and more colorful with a good jump in lighting quality.

    Artificial light is very dim in comparison to the intensity of the sun, even a cloudy overcast sun. We humans do not realize how dim only one or two fluorescent bulbs are, they seem plenty bright to our eyes. Our plants however, know how bright it really is because they depend upon this light for photosynthesis.

    Nutrients derived from carnivory doesn't mean they need less light for growth and health. It means that the nutrients derived from carnivory assist in their rates of photosynthesis (which can only be increased with increased lighting).

    Hope that helps!

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    Copper, is that what your gracilis 'nigrapurpurea' looks like?
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    Yes, that looks like a typical N. gracilis var. nigrapurpurea to me. Good job on the lighting source! I find it VERY difficult to obtain that rich fo coloration. I have one out in the greenhouse, we'll see what it does. I've been successful in only obtain bronzy pitchers and leaves but nothing like your plant, I would love to arrange a trade or something for a cutting!

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    I am guessing the plant originated from Bruce Lee Bednar, as he is th e only person I have ever seen N. mirabilis "Brunei Speckled" listed from, and he also has N. gracilis 'nigrapurpurea', too. That is a really niced colored plant, so don't change what you are doing.

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    Thanks guys! I plan on doing a cutting(s) sometime in the next few months. Any suggestions as a sure fire method to do so since I've never done this before, givin the size of the plant I have?

    The plant is origionally from Andrew Marshall of Cascade Carnivores here in Tenino, WA. (45 min drive from my house).

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    What swords said is money in the bank for nepenthes growers, or growers of any plant for that matter. The lighting conditons have been my main focus (and humidity) since I started growing neps outside. Sunlight is really wonderful for neps, until they bake -- sometimes quickly.

    You must max out the light on any plant -- without overmaxing it -- to get the best results. The leaves on a nep. should be a waxy green, bronze, or reddish (some leaves "freckle" red when they get a bit too much light, that's OK). The pitchers will ALWAYS be most colorful with more light.

    But, always remember, burning comes right after freckling and redness. So, you have to babysit any plant long enough to see if the new light is just right or just wrong. It really is a very fine line sometimes.

    Young plants, especially, will look great and then suddenly brown on you. Usually, if you catch it within a day or so you'll only lose a couple leaves and pitchers. The bright side is this: you've gone a long way towards sun-hardening or light-hardening your plant. The dead pitchers and leaves will not thank you. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

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    Greetings from Malaysia,

    Yes, the plant is definitely a N. gracilis. N. gracilis and N. mirablis are quite common in the western lowlands of Peninsular Malaysia. They are found in secondary jungle and disturbed land.

    In my search for lowland N. sanguinea at Bukit (hill) Antarabangsa I came across a few mirablis and graclis by a stream with very little shade. So they can withstand strong sun.

    Unfortunately, by now, the plants would have made way for a new condominum.

    cheers
    Choong

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