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    Fantastic Rob!
    How big are the pitchers on this one? It looks as though they could be 6-8" but that may be the perspective of the smaller plants in the background.
    I'm wondering how large the pitchers can actually get in cultivation. I've read 12" (Savage Garden) but has anyone actually brought a hamata to maturity in captivity yet?

    I am curious of it's eventual pitcehr size because some of the mature plants I've seen in person (at the orchid hop who are growing through the rafters) which have purportedly "humungous" pitchers when mature are not exactly as big as the books state sometimes. I have seen a mature (flowering) veitchii and a mature (flowering) clipeata. Both had pitchers surprisingly smaller than I expected (not really "small" of course but not large as I expected) Perhaps this was the greenhouses lighting as the plants were definatlye not languishing. But on the other hand you could cut a mature truncata pitcher and club someone to death with those things! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    Josh,

    [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] no it's the perspective! The pot is 5 1/2" in diameter so the pitcher is about 3" at the most. This plant is about a year out of sterile culture, it's a fast-growing species for sure.

    Size of pitchers isn't necessarily related to the age of the plant. Mature plants grown in soft conditions can have quite small pitchers, this can be observed in the wild as well as in cultivation. Size and hardness of pitchers in relation to leaf blade length is more down to growing conditions than age of the plants (within reason). Yep, Tony, you're right, it wasn't long before I was talking about this again! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] My hobbyhorse.

    You mentioned N. clipeata. The pitchers on this ncompact plant of N. clipeata on display in a museum lobby in Tokyo had 12" pitchers:



    And ooohh! Look at that pitcher to leaf ratio!!! The total height of the plant wasn't much over 12", pity the photo doesn't show that. If I was judging a show and was presented with that plant I'd award it first prize and then probably steal it! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

    Interestingly the same grower was displaying a N. ampullaria with the largest pitchers I've ever seen in cultivation. Lots and lots of light whilst maintaining the other factors within bounds would be my guess. Well fed too by the looks of it!
    Rob Cantley
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    Wow Rob! Now that's what I expect from a clipeata! Did the grower tell how it was grown? Indoors under artificial light or greenhouse, or...?

    The big clipeata at the orchid shop here is maybe 6 feet in height (flower stalk was another 24" or so) but the pitchers were not 12" maybe 6-8" but these plants only get natural minnesota light (which is weak most of the year) and something called "450 watt PL Lighting" which looks to be pretty much worthless, at least in a greenhouse application. I think if the shop would switch to 1000 watt halides instead they might get more impressive results with their display neps. Of course, it's still nice to go see and feel a plant as tall as me! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Being next to Tony's N.Clipeata's I feel short. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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    N.Grac. how tall are u?

    Rob, why did u have to be a judge to pull a 5 finger discount on a plant like that? if ya really wanted it it would of made a diff.

    Tony, i was just checking out your web page a sec. ago could u post a pic of a seedling clipeata. your mature one seem to be impressive

    out of all the Hamata i would pick fly-catchers or Robs
    George McKay

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    Hi George, the reason I said that is because Tony has high benches and his mature climbing Clipeata are that much taller on top of the benches! BTW, I am 6 ft 4 inches tall.

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    ok now i feel small
    George McKay

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    Dude, your 8" taller than me, and only a year older [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] ! That can't be right, I'm one of the tallest people in my school. I think I need to recheck my hight [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] .

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