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    Joe, i do not have any prior exspeance with some of the plants that you have but from doing a little research on them i would say they would need to be a little colder than 68 degrees. it depends where they were taken out of TC. i would bring them down even colder than that since what i have read up on they are somewhat hard to grow and the extra cooling at night would make it alot easyer for them. i do agree w/ cindy that 2-3cm is to small for them to be sold but heck it shore would be a learning exsperance on growing them.
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    Alright I'll turn the heat completely off at night, that should bring it down to an appropriate level. Guess I'll have to buy a terrarium air conditioner for the summer months.

    I better find a cool mist humidifier in a hurry then.

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    Joe, with my highlander babys. i but them in a zip lock bag that has moisture dripping from the inside of the bag and then but them into the refrig at night and they seam to be ok w/ it
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    Thanks for the info. I may do that, I'm thinking of buying one of those small car fridges and putting them in it at night untill I get my highland terrarium built in the living room. Then I'll use the peltier chips out of the fridge to cool the terrarium at night.

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    Remeber though......

    Go EASY on them. If your going for a tiny fridge GREAT...but try to fin one with adjustable temp and air flow (which most have) and give them mild nights. Aim for nights for these guys around 65F (since they are just little guys). Then once theyestablish and have a good root hold you can lower it to 60 then lower (once they get 3 inches across) to let's say 58F or so. Good luck with them! The 3 highlanders (N.ephippiata,N.spectabilis, and N.ovata) will do fine in the frisge with the night cooling and Amp should be the easiest guy in a room temp enclosure without cooling or heating and should form roots quickly. So remeber easy light conditions and mild temps for your highlanders. Good luck pal!
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    could you please define easy light condition? I was planning on buying a 175watt halide at home depot in the morning. would this be overkill or can they stand it when they get older??

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    You could save the Metal Halide money for later. When these guys get to 3" or so then you could put them under MH light but a good distance away from the light (3 feet or so) as these bulbs generate a lot of heat and will definately dry the air unless seperated by glass-and possibly even with glass seperating them. If you do put them under the MH now make sure it's at least 3 feet from the light with at least 50% shade cloth between the plants and light. I am an advocate of using as much light as possible but they do need to harden off a bit and acclimate to it.
    From what I've read, most TC labs generally grow the plants in flasks on shelves using simple "lowlight" 2 tube flourescent units as they are mainly concentrating on growing a clump of plant material / growing points and not actual plants so the light need only be high enough to maintain cell growth and these little guys would probably not enjoy MHs for quite some time yet.
    MH lighting may also change your plans for cooling them. You will most likely need to add a fan to keep the daytime temps low enough (under 80-85*F I actually find that my highlanders do better between 70-80*F). An airconditioner, is a good investment, only about $100 and will keep your plants from cooking in the summer. I bought one and on the hottest nights of summer my highland terrarium will generally stay about 50-60*F all summer long. when piping the airconditioned air in be sure to have the cool mist humidifier intersect the cool air and humidify it BEFORE it enters the terrarium/grow chamber so it's cool and humid otherwise you will wake up and see your pitchers have all closed their lids! It happened to me and I lost most of the pitchers on the plants (but didn't loose the plants) til I got the setup right. Now that it's autumn/winter here I am just using a 4" CPU fan from Radio Shack attached to a piece of 4" solid metal ducting which is a attached to the 4" duct hose which was attached to the A/C earlier this year. At night the fan sucks cool air from the window surface (window isn't even open) into the tank and brings it down to 55*F-65*F without AC and it will get colder as the temps here (Minneapolis) drop outside.

    If you like tinkering/experimenting you will have fun setting up a highland tank! Things I consider essential for a highland setup (other than the enclosure itself) would be:
    *bright/intense light (once the plants are 3" or so)
    *airconditioner
    *Thermostat to control AC if has timer Day/night settings even better!
    *Ultrasonic humidifier (the type which has a small metal disk and makes fog not the "cool mist" fan & sponge type)
    *humidistat to regulate the humidifier
    *4" fan
    *4" Ductwork to connect AC or fan to terrarium
    *hose to make humidifier output intersect 4" duct hose

    I don't reccomend having any large openings in the highland terrarium as the constant inflow of air from either fan or AC will keep the fresh air moving and any openings can lower the humidity which must remain very high as the lighting needs to be very intense for these guys to simulate the 'full sun' positions on mountainsides that many of the highlanders naturally occur in. Any drops in humidity can cause your plants to become cripsy very quick under such lighting especially young ones fresh out of TC such as yours.

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    Hey swords I like the way you think, actually on the tinkering note I've been an electronics technician in the air force for six years and I'm only a year away from my Electrical Engineering degree.

    My current plan is to build a terrarium with a cabinet underneath containing one of those cheap car coolers filled with water and a fogger that I've already picked out. duct work will run the warm/chilled for into the tank. As for the timer I'm planning on using a motorala 68hc11 microcontroller to run everything connected to the tank. I haven't found a humidistat yet so if you could point me to one that would help, also what type of fridge are you using?

    also you mention airflow? i was under the impression I was to have stagnent wet air. is this incorrect?

    thanks again

    ps for the night my plants are in an igloo cooler with a small bowl of ice, but i'm having a little trouble with humidity.
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