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    I rescently recieved several varieties of nep. all of them are extremely small around 1-2cm and a few don't have much in the way of roots if any. I assume they are cuttlings since they don't have roots although they look just like tiny neps with miniature pitchers. currently I have them in a planting mix of mostly shredded peat moss to ensure that moisture is available at the base. the soil is constanly wet-soggy and humidity is 100%. I only water once every 3-4 days due to the water retention of the mix.

    Q. Will the shredded peat moss help to ensure rooting or am I asking for root rot?

    Q would it be safe to attempt transplant should this be the wrong mix or should I wait and hope for the best.

    Q. What else can I do to ensure the root growth and suvival of tiny neps, I have no experience with cutlings.

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    Joe to me it sounds like you received some neps which are not cuttings but ex-vitro (meaning just taken out of a tissue culture flask) or seedlings since you say they are 1-2cm. cuttings would be far larger plants.

    Either way, I preffer to use pure long fibered sphagnum in a 2" seed pot for any nep rooting as it stays wet/moist but not soggy. Sopping wet is an invitation to rot but being dry will kill them as well. LFS in a drained pot in a high humidity terrarium and some occasional foliage misting will help get those seedlings the water they need.

    You might try misting the plants with a single drop of superthrive (or any other plant hormone, HormoneX is just as good) in the mister. Some people beleive it helps settle the plant down, I use it but it may or may not truely be a necessity.

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    Joe, keep the humidity high as possible, soil mix damp, i would take the mix that the roots are in right now keep what is around it and put it into some lfm/peat more one the side of lfm. water every 3-4 days like you have been doing but just keep an eye on the mix to make sure it doesn't dry out.
    like sword said it does sound like you got some neps right out of TC they are to small to be cuttings to try to root. good luck w/ your new neps.
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    I would opt for moss or go with a peat/perlite mix. Remeber numero uno rule for baby vitro Neps is that they need to be in "Cream Puff" conditions, meaning they need very ideal conditions as they are establishing. I wish you the best of luck! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]

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    As a related question, is it recommended to spray with a fungicide after receiving bare root neps? I expect the several plants I ordered from Phillip in about a week or so, and am I safe in assuming very warm conditions would be helpfull?

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    thanks guys,
    the humidity is high and I mist them about once a day. As for LSF all I have is the dead stuff which I don't find very good but hopefully it will work. I'll just soak it for a day or two first.
    Also I will try the superthrive on the foliage. They already have been watered once with a superthrive mix.

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    LFS is always "dead" it will become "live" (the surface spores will sprout) after some months in the terrarium. It is not so much the "living aspect" of the moss as it's ability to soak up water and remain moist but be coarse enough to drain leaving tiny air pockets for the forming roots to keep from becoming suffocated.
    Once your plants get larger 6-8cm or so then it can be put in a more specialized mix for that species, if the plant is from a peat swamp forest then peat, LFS and charcoal will be a nice mix but not til the plant has some size and a good set of roots to work with. And as someone said above, if/when you transplant it don't bare root it just remove the soil around where the roots are and leave them in the soil clump to minimize any excess shock.

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    Joseph,

    Seems you have already had some good advice. The plants you describe are almost certainly ex-vitro (what I call a "plantlet") and should form roots quite quickly if you can give them the right conditions. I suggest you don't worry about giving them too much light and risk lowering the relative humidity around the plant. After some weeks and the roots will have formed, then you can increase the light levels. it's a delicate balance really.

    Most of our losses if we have any occur due to rot in the first few days after planting out. If they survive the first week they're usually OK. We've tried using funcidal dips, but it hasn't made any difference really. The trick seems to be humid but not soggy.

    I don't think you mentioned what species they are. It makes little difference to their care in the early stages, but I'm just curious.

    Good luck!
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