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    Did some searching around and came up with the following:
    Phill Mann has this on his website N. fusca x veitchii
    Looks to be a fairly young plant.
    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

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    Thanks for sharing that Joachim. Fascinating article...amazing pictures. I can't imagine being able to actually SEE all that. Takes a lot of work and dedication too.

    N. spec B is something else.

    There are just so many beautiful and fascinating things to see in the world and we only get to see but a little bit.

    Suzanne
    "Fox terriers are born with about four times as much original sin in them as other dogs." - Jerome K. Jerome

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    Thanks Tony!

    Hmm, looks like the peristome isn't as tall and the lid is round as opposed to triangular... Perhaps a different form of veitchii would yield different results, or as you mention, an older/larger plant.

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    Hi all:

    I have spoken to Geoff Mansell and he has kindly given me this picture so I can show it to you all:



    [img]http://home.**********.com/agustinfranco/nepenthes%20pics/fusxveithl.jpg[/img]

    He also mentioned the fact that there is a lot of variation every time that the cross is made. Maybe there was a natural selection for a very stable clone out of the many produced when the fusca and veitchii cross was naturally made to create N. specB . Then again who knows?

    Gus

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    Man, his growing conditions are flawless, no doubt about that. It is so nice, it looks painted almost, lol.
    Anyway, shouldn't this "sp B" be considered a species instead of a hybrid, since it's stable(especially if it's the same plant Danser called N. mollis, in which case it would get that name)?
    Thanks for the pic, Joachim. That is one beautiful pitcher!

    Regards,

    Joe

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    As I recall, Geoff and Andrea have 'sp. b' in their collection, and once had pictures of it on the Exotica site. It was referred to it as a long necked veitchii, and they even had a hybrid or two using it.
    As for 'sp b ', I agree with Gus; its a natural hybrid that has selectively bred to what we see today. The original natural hybrid probably occurred many thousands of years ago.
    Also, I believe it grows at higher altitudes than typical for fusca and veitchii.

    Trent

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    wow!!! im drowning in drool over that spectabilis! tony, that does look like nep # 2, doens't it? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img] speaking of those new nep species, chin lee came to a bacps meeting a year ago. he sold a nepenthes spectabilis to me, hence the name spectabilis73. he also sold a nepenthes # 6 and 7 for 100 dollars each. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img] if you ask me, thats pretty darned cheap for a new unnamed species. the rich guy who bought it is the only owner of them in the USA. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img] i wish i had bought those plants... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img]

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    Follow up of Geoff Mansell from exoticaplants on N spec B


    [QUOTE]We did have the plant pictured several years ago and it was
    called N.veitchii-Mt. Pagan. The plant was quite difficult to grow and it
    eventually died as we did not have the conditions we have now. We did do a
    hybrid with N.xRokko with this plant and still have several clones which do
    look like it. I think you will find that the plant is named by Ch'ien Lee
    and is call N.hurellii now.


    This gets better by the minute. Thanks a lot Geoff. I know you are a very busy nepenthes grower, but you are doing a wonderful job and as for me, I am very happy and excited when i get this type of info from you. Because this way, we all learn something new.

    Gus

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