Today, I got my order from Kim. *I got N. maxima dark, spathulata, x Ile De France, maxima dark x veitchii, x mastersiana, rafflesiana elegance, and he gave me a N. ventricosa x (spathulata x veitchii) and a N. ventricosa x bongso for free [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] ! *Almost all of the plants were large, and very healthy (the best quality since I ordered from Hydes Stove House). *The x Ile De France is the largest, with 8" pitchers! *The only bad thing is that the N. spathulata is producing upper pitchers, but it should make offshoots eventualy. Now I just need to get some more pots and.... arghh, I really need to get a metal halide fixture [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img] .