Ok here is my one to guess at. This is also a pretty young plant and wings are not visible that will be on adult pitchers.
Wow, Joel, It looks to me like your ventrata is really simialar to my Gubler's... Mine hasnt opened yet, but by judging from the no wings, pitcher/tendril proportion, and leaf colour, its REALLY simialar... Mine is THREE inches now! OMG, it was two last time i measured... My gubler's isnt as red as your ventrata, but seeing as how it doenst get AS MUCH sun as yours probably does, i expect that... The tendril is that red tho!
Hmmm... ceph88, you have a gubler's too, what do you think?
Oh what the heck here's a couple of pics of my Oiso x Maxima
and here's my ventricosa its small but it has a ton if pitchers on it
(Edited by unknownclown at 9:30 pm on May 16, 2002)
I'd be wiling to bet Tony that whatever that plant is it's mixed with N. Maxima
that's a tough one... My first impression was it could be a small N. thorelii but I think the pitcher shape of a N. thorelii should be more ovoid in the lower part. The pitcher does more resemble that of the spotted form of N. alata what is my guess for now. But it could be of course a N. hybrid which would make it near to impossible for me to guess its parentage...
As you see Tony you could sell anything to me with the right name attached to it ;-)
OK, as my plant isn't easy to guess I'll give some more hints (don't read on Tony before you make your guess!).
No, my plant isn't a N. talangensis. The typical pitcher shape of N. talangensis could already be seen in young pitchers. The pitchers of my plant should get somewhat fatter with age but thats it. The pinkish pitcher colour is quite unusual for Nepenthes and also the distribution of the colour is typical for this species: Of course the pitchers of this species doesn't need any colouration in the lower parts of their pitchers...
NICE pictures everyone! Mindmaze, just HOW big is that Merrilliana pitcher? Joachim, is your Nep that everyone is trying to guess Highland,Lowlnad or Intermediate? My MAIN guess right now I cannot make. [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Just TOO tough! Tony you can take this one unless I find out H,L,I out first then i may come back for a throw. [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
The merrillana pitcher is, I think, 2 inches high or a little more. It has most of the bottom under the soil, so I can't really judge it well. But it is definetly the biggest merrilliana pitcher that I have seen, and the mouth is almost an inch wide!!
I am by no means a Nep identification expert, but I think that your plant is Nepenthes rhombicaulis. I was looking at the pics at Andreas Wistuba's page and this one looks really similar to yours.
It's pretty tough to tell from just the pitcher.. but some characteristics are the two tone coloration. The already fairly broad and flat peristome even on a small pitcher. The lid which doesn't open too much. And the plant which is very unique.. alot like merrilliana but more spoon shaped leaves.
I don't have any plant pics but here are a couple of my sibuyanensis seedlings.
Another hint on mine.. The peristome will be black and the plant is covered in fine redish/brown hairs. (answer tomorrow morning)
As Tony already pointed out N. sibuyanensis has some special features which already can be seen in small plants. The lower half of the pitchers is normally burried in the soil so no colouration of the lower part of the pitcher is necessary. N. sibuyanensis was first described by Nerz and Mann in 1998 so this plant is also quite new to cultivation and isn't as widespread and as well known as many others.
Identfying Nepenthes is a very tough task because they do vary so much even within the same species they can look totally differnt. And of course even with Tonys hints it is very hard for me to guess his plant. It could be a N. faizaliana or a N. boschiana or even something totally different...
Tony, I think your plant is N.Clipeata or N.Boschiana by your descriptions.
Joel, that is a big Merrilliana pitcher BTW! Hope mine makes 3 inchers! [img]http://www.**********.com/iBhtml/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
(Edited by nepenthes gracilis at 10:14 pm on May 17, 2002)