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    I purchased this established cutting of "Nepenthes alata" (I don't know as it arrived with no pitchers) from a online greenhouse a few months ago and it has settled in and created plenty of leaves and began making pitchers but none are good they're all very weird looking like this:


    With a lid very thin and filiform and the peristome collapsing inwards:


    The pitcher made after the ones above is almost completely round and has no opening at all, just what looks like a navel orange navel. The one following that is just a dried tube.
    The upcoming leaves' pitcher buds have a white stem coming out of them instead of a soft fleshy tip (I couldn't get a focus on these last abberations to show everyone).

    To add to the mystery there is no visible problems with the plant like fungus, spots, marks or anything but it appears the plant is freaking out. Perhaps this is a virus inside the plant?

    It gets the same water, light, temps, humidty and care as my other lowlanders. If this is a highland form would growing it in true lowland conditions cause it to do this if it were a highland plant? If so I can simply move it but if it's infected with some disease I don't wanna risk my HL collection!

    Does anyone have an idea what could be wrong with this guy?

    Thanks for any thoughts! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    If it is a highlander in your lowland conditions that probably isn't helping it any. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] What was it labeled when you got it? I am assuming just "N. alata" as you stated. The pitchers are mis formed meaning either low humidity, a possible disease or wrong climate.

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    Could be something environmental. I don't think it's pathogen/insect related since it appears very clean to me from pics you have shown. Could be something wrong genetically which it may or may not grow out of.
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    HEY! My nepenthes spectabilis has that problem too! Only the lids are half as long as the opening, and a little bit fatter... I plug the opening of developing pitchers with cotton, seens to help..

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    Thanks folks!

    I should have also mentioned the growing point is getting smaller and smaller with the new leaves/nodes very close to together.

    No Dustin, it wasn't even labeled N alata, that's just what the ad I got it from said. The photo of thier ad shows what looks like the all red lowland form. The exact plant I got didn't have much of anything but a wobbly stalk sticking in some mud-like potting mix (these problems have been fixed).

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    If the leaves and nodes are getting closer together then temp sounds like the problem to me.

    N. madagascariensis did this to me...VERY compact and short growth habit until i moved it to ultra lowlander climate. Maybe this needs some fresh cool air as it's a highland form?

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    Hi all:

    I am afraid i can't contribute much to solve your problem swords, but I think we are surrounded by misinformation.

    last year I got a N. madagascariensis (the owners of the shop labelled it as a highland!!. Maybe that's why it died. It was a lowland.

    N. anamensis is also labelled as a highland (VCPS website). Although if it is a gracilis derivative should be a lowland!! and so on. I wonder if there was a quick way to test the resistance of plants to cold or hot weather so you can place it in the right type of tank!!!!!..

    Gus

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    It might not be getting enough light. I saved mine from a nursury where they kept it (an alata too) in very low light levels- the pitchers were much smaller than they should have been and they were severely deformed.

    just my two cents
    regards, hamata

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