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    Hi
    I'm new of this forum, and I hope to open a discussion not yet done, if it was already done, are there some news?

    The starting question is:
    can a Nepenthes as rajah, burbidgeae or others, considered difficult, live and pitcher with a right balanced of humidity, light, shade and other variables out in garden in temperate regions (from spring to autumn)?
    Is there someone that tried?
    Out of discussion are for example: khasiana, ventricosa , alata, truncata...etc

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    rajah [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Ultrahighlands require a hefty temperature drop at night, their cultivation conditions must be exacting. I don't know many people who have Rajah, and I don't know any of them that would risk their plant in an experiment like that. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

    For ultra highlands, that temperature drop is just to critical.
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    Well there is Axel's rajah grown on a window with no special treatment so...
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    Hi !
    I now that with N.villosa would be impossible,
    But when I read information on some Nepenthes, for example rajah has a wide range of altitude (if I'm not wrong from 1600 m to 2200 m), burbidgeae is less highland (1200 m - 1600 m)
    pilosa and rhombicaulis like shade (so the North face of an house with fresh North wind would be good also in summer, of temperate clime) and so on... in general plants are very adaptable, if you have a strong starting clone, so I asked myself wich highlands could be cultivated in a different way from the traditional and well known one.
    When I saw this forum I thought that some growers has done any sort of experiment to try to understand well how plastic are our beautiful plants.

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    A friend tried this last year.
    When I visited him in September he had a rajah, lowii and macrophylla hangiging in his appletree.
    I made a few pictures but they went out very bad...

    http://www.drosophyllum.com/deutsch/versuche.htm
    (you have to scroll down to the last topic)

    The plants are growing and pitchering (in Germany) but you still need a terrarium/ greenhouse for the cold part of the year and propably for the hottest summer days, too.
    The plants must acommodate at least twice a year to new conditions (terrarium -> outside and outside -> terraium) so I wouldn't recommend it.

    Martin

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    Well, unless you live on Mt. Kinabalua you can grow a Nepenthes Rajah right on your windowsill. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Um no rajah I don't think it would be possible. First of all, pests would be a big issue as would humdity and most importantly temperature. Just curious but how would you manage to drop the area around the plant at night to the 50's from let's say 9 at night to 6-8 in the morning? It would be impossible unless you had 2 AC's blowing on it all night with a VERY high amount of humidity from an over head sprayer. I personally would say yeah you can grow a Khasiana and a Truncata outside if they have been adapted to the outside conditions for 8 months or so. But not for the Ultrahighlands too risky and too rare. Just go with a different one! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]
    BTW, here's pic of my Rajah, now at 5 and 1/2 inches diameter or a little less than 15 cm. Also pictured are N.Lowii and N.Hamata. Hamata- about same as Rajah and Lowii 3 inches diameter or 7-8 cms?


    Left to right: N.Hamata,N.Lowii,N.Rajah

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    NG instead of telling him what he can't grow outside why don't we try to figure out what he could grow. Rajah could you please list the conditioins you can providde outside.

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    I personally would say yeah you can grow a Khasiana and a Truncata outside if they have been adapted to the outside conditions for 8 months or so.[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] I am just replying to the post as "Why can't Rajah be grown outside." I am trying to add to the topic and trying to help.

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