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    Ok guys... as many of you know, because of where I live, (south texas) i have been restrained in my growing of highlands and ultra-highlands plants... and no... it's not rajah that's got me all bothered to grow (truthfully, I don't think it's all that spectacular, don't get me wrong, I want one, but there are more striking plants)

    I am all fired up to get N. Bongso, Lowii, Hamata, and some other fun ones...

    But first, I need a tank that can beat easily maintained, I don't have the time, or compunction to freeze soda bottles every night, and my wife will draw the line at me re-routing the airconditioner...

    which, in my mind leaves me with the chiller idea... to expensive...

    Someone, I think Pyro was talking about running air hose through a refrigerator, all coiled up... or maybe it was a water hose... can't remember...

    I am just thinking about putting a air pump in a little refrigerator, putting the air stone in some water, to keep humidity up, and let it rip... what do you guys think... on a timer to do this only at night, would I have success?

    Me thinks I might give it a try...
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    ram puppy the air stone in water should do the trick but might not get up to 80-90% humidity. you might want to use a little fan that usally is in the refrig to move the air around. the air hose will put out to much air and not cool it right.
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    OK... I just finished setting up my experiment.

    As follows:

    10 gallon tank

    Peat/perlite/orchidbark substrate.

    There is a 100 CD silo cover in the center, inverted and filled with approximately 1/4th gallon of distilled water, I used the rest of the gallon to re-hydrate the peat...

    The airpump is in the refrigerator below the tank, with some of the tubing going through the small freezer portion. As it exits the refridgerator, it is wrapped in paper towels (scrunched around it) and then in foil for approximately 2 feet. Then the tube is in-sight and is bare (the wife would not be happy with a foil wrapped line in plain view&#33[img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] then for another foot it is un-shielded, and then into the tank. Inside the tank the line runs to a large airstone and into the cd-silo cover full of water.

    There is a 2 bulb fixture at 18's pumping light in from the top, top of tank is sealed with glass and saran wrap.

    The tank is also recieving diffused sunlight through the window now, it is approximately 1 ft from the glass, with a row of books seperating most of the tank from the window, so light is coming in through the top 3 inches, and the top of the tank. (it's cloudy outside right now.) if the sun becomes an issue, I'll lower the blinds...

    Ok...

    the setup has been running for 15 minutes so far, daytime temps seem stable at 83/84 degrees farenheight, however, I don't think it has fallen into any sort of balance yet, the water is probably cooling, stripping cold from the air, and since i had the refrigerator open, the air in there is probably not as cool as it could be just yet.

    The real test, will be to see the high temp during the day for a number of days, and record the lowest temp during the night for a couple of nights... I will probably take readings at midnight and 6 AM, for night temps...

    Humidity is already in the 90's, so I don't think that is going to be an issue.

    My plan is to see how this works for today and tomorrow... if temps seem to be ok, I will move my judith finn and N. Rocco X Fusca over, and see if their growth improves. If that does well, then I will move up the difficulty and rareity chain to where I want to be. Feedback welcome of course!
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    Lightbulb

    Don't know how doable this is but you might get better insulating for your air tubing with the foam water pipe cover they sell for insulating copper pipe under homes or that insulated foil heat tape wrap minus the heat tape. Just a brain drizzle I had and thought I'd toss out for consideration.
    Hope your setup works [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] !
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    I'm trying the cheap homeade method before I start adding to the setup! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
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    I have heard this idea before Steve. I used it on my Rajah way back when it was a little 2 inch dia plant and it faired well with it. I still say ice is the best way but like you said you can't too time consuming and pain in the butt, which it is! I know! I use the method! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] Hmm....your setup sounds good and since the enclosure is so small it should work good at night esp. when room temps are cooler. Perhaps place it in front of the AC output at night? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif[/img]

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    this whole setups' got me lost ram, lol, is the tank.. in the frig? are there cut holes for the hose? do you have to move anything nightly? if i can understand it, and it works, i just might dabble a little bit into some highlands and ultras [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img] if you have a pic yet, can i see it? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif[/img]
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    I would love to give you a pic, but the digital is down for the count... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif[/img]

    k...

    basically I have a little mini fridge, like for a dorm room. it is one 'leg' of a desk I made with an old oak door. On top of the desk is the 10 gallon tank.

    There is an air pump in the fridge, that runs an insulated line into the tank (about um... 4 feet total line outside the fridge) the line comes t hrough the top, where a filter used to sit, so the top has a hole cut in it, which I have sealed relatively tight, with saran wrap.

    The tube ends in a glass of water (the glass being the inverted top of a CD silo 100 ct) so the cold air bubbles through the water, into the tank.

    Theoretically, if I can keep the air cold until it gets into the tank, it should first establish a balance in temps between it and the water as it bubbles through it, then the water and air (humidified as it comes through the water) should cool the tank...

    it has risen to 85 Farenheit now... that is with 2 flourescent lights and sunlight on it... tonight, I am expecting a nice cool down...


    ccrider, does that make sense now?

    You highlanders types.. is 85 an acceptable upper temp? My highlands experience is watching my highlands intermediates languash in my lowlands setup.
    \"Maybe in order to understand mankind, we have to look at the word itself: \"Mankind\". Basically, it\'s made up of two separate words - \"mank\" and \"ind\". What do these words mean ? It\'s a mystery, and that\'s why so is mankind.\" ~ Jack Handey

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