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    usally i just give it a watering w/ the stuff 2 times a month but, latly since it is colder out i have been only watering w/ the stuff once a month and let the water sit in the tray for 2-3 days before i dump it out of the tray.

    with newer plants i get out of the mail i usally spray it on the leaves also to help w/ stress and let it sit in the tray for a week before i dump the tray out.

    hope this helps
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    Doesn't increasing the iron increase pathogen levels, or do the plants require high iron to survive?
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    I thought I would add a point here..... These plants are equipped with specialzed leaves for digesting prey and making use of them for nutrients which are extremly low in their soils. Superthrive is fine as long as you don't overdo it. Fertilziing should best be avioded unless your expierenced and know what you're doing. My advice is feed the plant.

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    Darcie, I haven't heard about plants being more susseptable to viruses and such by feeding Iron. Can you give me a link to some info on this online somewhere?

    All green plant matter requires nutrients & trace elements to best perform the activities of photosynthesis. Green algae uses the same minerals an orchid does just in differing quanities. Light is required for triggering plants to put energy towards photosynthesis but nutrients are what fuel the activities of photosynthesis (growth, flowering, etc).

    Rainwater is not nearly as pure as distilled or R/O water that we water our neps and orchids with. Rainwater will always give the plant minute amounts of trace elements as well as whatever minerals dissolve into it before it reaches the plants roots. Due to the frequency of rain in Nep habiat they do not have minerals for long as they are washed away almost daily but that water IS running down limestone cliffs and over ultramafic soils (Iron & magnesium enriched) before it reaches them. So that is why I personally am experimenting with laterite and flourite, to see if there is a benefit in comparison to just using my plain old highland plant mix by delivering an abundance of iron and or iron & magnesium.

    I should add I haven't done any soild additives like laterite or Flourite to lowland plants only highland plants, the lowlanders do get my bi weekly fertilizer though.

    Nep G remember trace minerals and macro elements like Nitrogen Phospherous and K=potassium are different. Flies and Crickets will give our plants the NPK but to give more things like magnesium, boron, copper, iron, zinc, etc. you will have to give them that in some other form as bugs will not harbor as many of these thinsg which are achieved through rains and rain washing over mineral deposits. Aquarium trace element fertilizers are a good place to start with these minerals because they are very diluted so as not to cause an algae outbreak when you feed your aquarium plants.

    And of course be sure you start very light if you ever try fertilizing your plants. You don't have to be an expert to feed them just be careful, a good rule people throw around for Neps (and orchids) is to use 1/4 of whatever the reccomended doseage is to avoid possibility of overfeeding and it seems to work for me so that's what I do too.

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    Hi !!
    I read (on Kinabalu Park, visitor's guide of GLOBETROTTER) that high level of iron, silica and metals in the soil is poisonous to many plants, on the contrary Nepenthes can live without problems in this kind of soils. That's why ultramafic soils are typical for some endemism of rare species of Nepenthes and orchids.

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    Nep g has a good point... something that I want to elaborate a little more on.

    I fertilized some of my neps with osmocote.... and I sort of put an liiiiitle bit too much on my N khasiana and N rafflesiana. So what happened? Well, the plants are alive, and they threw out a bunch of big green leaves, but the newest batch of pitchers are TINY! ITSY BITSY TEENY TINY LITTLE BUGGERS!! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif[/img]

    So be warnéd: If you're thinking of using fertilizer, only use a little, and water A LOT!

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    mindmaze, i understand what u are talking about. when i recieved the N. khasiana the pitchers where huge. now that i just water that one and superthrive it 2 times a month. the pitchers are really small now. i'm not putting the other fertilizer on it cause i think it is to little to play around with it. so that is telling me that the nursery i got it from was placing the stuff on it or something else to make it grow faster and bigger.
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    I am growing Nepenthes merrilliana in pure laterite. I transplanted it last year into this and so far the plant is growing without any problems, although I can't say I have noticed any significant improvement in growth rate as a result. Robert Gibson has told me to use caution with laterite, as the composition can vary considerably.
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