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    "To use milk or to not use milk, that is the question..."
    Or is it?
    Zongyi,
    If you got crickets and like using them, do it. It is a very natural response to growing cp and you can't go wrong.
    I noticed the comment D mus said about a rotting pitcher, and if you are not afraid to use live insects, surely they stir the pitcher contents up as they struggle. Are dead insects(freeze dried or otherwise) just as bad as dilute milk in that aspect? Just a thought.

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    The Canned crickets aren't good for Nepenthes pitchers....they are very rich and destroy the pitcher within a week or less. It's like feeding them drops of Superthrive almost. I revert to meal worms/beetles in the winter from my own farm of them for the neps. 'll go around to eaach plant individually each month and toss in 2-3 worm larvae and maybe 1 adult beetle per new pitcher or newest pitcher.

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    Since this thread hasn't died, and i spent some time saturday feeding and watering the lowland plants, i thought i'd post an update pic. The newest pitcher is substantially larger than the previous, and the rot hasn't been as much of a problem. I think that the pitcher that rotted was just at the end of its time. I used 1% milk for the last couple weeks, and that probably helped (less fat).

    There is no stink coming from the lowland today after rather excessive feeding of milk Saturday. If you overdid it, i could see the stench (and rot of your pitchers) becoming a big problem, but just go easy.

    Schloaty: There's some nice coloration in one of these pitchers, too, but just one. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img]

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    It does look like a happy plant, as well as the ones in the background.
    Dustin, do they add stuff to those canned crickets, or do you think the lack of struggle/churning pitcher contents contributes to nasty pitchers? I have looked at the freeze-dried ones in plastic bottles and they look lile..well dead crickets, lol. I have thought of raising mealworms myself, for the beetles more than the meal worms for that reason.

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    Has anyone tried dried skim milk powder instead? You could drop in a few granules.

    Probably just the calcium that the plants like... there may be an easier way to supplement this than with milk.

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    Powdered milk has been used with good success on pings and sundews(at least it won't drip off into the pot off the leaves). I know it has been used with Nepenthes, but I can't remember.

    Joe

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    Joe, I think the canned ones have stuff added. Tony has a bunch of freeze dried one and they look ok. Prey struggling is a good idea however, so if your feeding with dead insect swirl the pitcher around to stimulate the effect of struggling prey. I usually swilr the pitcher with live insects too, they get overcome by the fluid eventually and drown, rather than sit on top and invite mold in to ruin your pitchers.

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    I forgot to mention that i use a glass pipette and pipette bulb to feed milk, and this is MUCH easier than feeding with insects (especially live ones) for small plants. It permits feeding of pitchers almost too small for other foods. I'm careful to rinse off any milk that spills on the peristome or pitcher.
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