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    Dustin summed it up well. On Nepenthes hybrids always figure the cross is labelled girl x boy. The seed bearing plant should be listed first when naming the cross. When using a common name, like N. ventrata, you really don't know if the alata is the seedbearer (as it was in the Dutch hybrid), or the ventricosa. There can be subtle variations in crosses because of the reciprical possibilities. there would also be variation depending on which clones were used as well. There's a lot of variation amongst alatas and ventricosas!
    By the way, the Dutch 'ventrata' is female. We've bloomed it down here and have tried to make crosses with her, but after repeated tries with different males, she has yet to produce viable seed. She's sterile!

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    i have a question sorta related to this post.... some of you may remember my post when i first came to these forums about a Nepenthes i have but dont know which species/hybrid. anyways it had a tag saying Miranda on it but i was unable to locate any info on the web about it so i thought it was a "greenhouse" goof now i see some for sale on my email. where would i find info on these? btw now that it is in the 75 gal tank it is starting to pitcher and its leaves are turning a reddish color(i read this is a good thing)

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    What would you like to know about N. 'Miranda'?
    Maybe I can help. It is not officially registered as a cultivar, but so many good Nepenthes hybrids aren't. The exact parentage is not known for sure, but it is definitely a hybrid with N. Mixta. The TC supplier calls it N. maxima miranda, which implies its a maxima. It is not pure maxima. Most likely it is a hybrid of N. maxima x N. Mixta, as the TC supplier erroneously names the plant after the seed bearing parent. N. 'Miranda' also looks very much like a Japanese hybrid called N. 'Oiso', which is also the cross of N. maxima x N. Mixta.
    N. Mixta is an old Victorian hybrid made at the turn of the century(19th into 20th) and is N. northiana x N. maxima. There are supposedly a few clones of it, maybe only two are still around. One is N. Mixta 'Superba", a male, and is frequntly seen in collections, and N. Mixta 'Sanguinea', a female, which may be extinct.
    If anyone reading this has knowledge of the true N. Mixta 'Sanguinea' still being grown, please contact me.

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    i dont know i guess at this point the main question is what Nep has similar care to it? it seems to be doing great in the set up i have at the moment which is a lowland type. warm(85-90) and humid during the day slightly cooler(68-75) at night. the 2 ventricosa(Lowes plants) i have in the same tank are growing a lot more rapidly than i thought they would. second question.....will it go into shock if i split up the 2 seperate plants that are in the pot? right now it is seriously crowding the sides of the tank but would have much more room if i was able to but them in 2 seperate pots.

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    Your temperatures are ideal for N. 'Miranda'. We find potting the two plants up individually actually stimulates more growth, especially ground shoots. Gently remove some of the peat from the root ball and move into a bigger pot. Use a somewhat peaty mix, as this is what the plants are accustomed to growing in. I take our regular Nep mix and add 50 percent more peat. Another good recipe is to use the Home Depot Phalaenopsis Mix and mix it 50/50 with Lambert Canadian Sphagnum Peat.
    A word of warning- N. Miranda is a large grower, with leaves over two feet long and pitchers up to a foot long.

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    wow that big huh? dont know if ill have room for more than one of these monsters. i had decided after about 2 hours of searching that it must have been mislabeled but i guess i was wrong. ill take a pic once a pitcher matures. someone on here should be able to tell me for sure what it is from a lower pitcher right? well ill go ahead and seperate them sometime this week and let them go wild over the winter and prolly trade one off this spring . thanks for the info.

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    Yes, N. Miranda is a very large hybrid. Just take a look at mine below.

    [img]http://home.**********.com/eplants02/NxMixta.JPG[/img]

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    Is a N. Miranda a lowlander or a highland?
    Mom says: "Its stupid to collect plants that all look alike! Get a new hobie!"

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