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    Ever see the price on a full grown Nep Snowy? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/rock.gif[/img]

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    Uhhhh... no.... But considering the prices of 1 inch ones I would hate to even think of a full grown one!

    Why don't you enlighten me? What are the price ranges?

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    Aaahhh, I think I misunderstood you. I wasn't talking about buying a plant several years old, but waiting several years for the price of the plant to drop to a reasonable level due to increased TC production. Does this clear my post up?

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    Those hamata crosses should be interesting. If any are crossed onto something lowland, they should adapt to outdoor/and or greenhouse growing in Florida.
    SF, where would you put adult sized highland plants?
    Tony, you mention the F2 hybrids showing recessive traits on a percentage of progeny. Right now we've got a handful of seedlings of (northiana x veitchii)x(northiana x veitchii), a sibling cross. They're way to juvenile to see much yet, but it will be interesting to see if a plant or two (very low germination, only 8 plants made to individual pots) favor veitchii or the "grandmother", northiana. Are you doing any breeding with Nepenthes on your own?

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    I would turn my room into a highland grow chamber. If my parents and twin let me! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif[/img] [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

    Where there's a will there's a way! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    Yes, I just mean in comparison to a large Nep the seedlings are cheap.

    On a side note, I look at each plant more as an investment in enjoyment. How much will I enjoy that plant? I don't drink alcohol so Instead of one night on the town I get a plant that will continue to bring me enjoyment for the rest of my life. Is having a really awesome plant to look at for the next 40-50 years worth $50 or $100? Sure it is! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif[/img]

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    SF unfortunately I don't expect the N. hamata crosses to become available in mass quantity from TC. The grower usually only produces plants from seed.
    Only a couple crosses are listed so far but I am sure more will come along in the future.
    N. truncata x N. hamata
    N. talangensis x N. hamata

    Trent your cross sounds nice. Should be some monster Nepenthes! You should see some interesting traits. If you make the reasonable assumption that species are homozygous and cross 2 plants AA and BB your hybrids end up as AB. When you then sib cross 2 of those you end up with 25% AA 50% AB and 25% BB. Now consider that your dealing with 40 chromosomes or so.. It's alot like playing the lottery. Odds are that most of the offspring will still maintain a fairly equal portion of both parents but there is the slim chance that you end up with a plant that has a high portion of either the AA recombination or the BB recombination over the full set of all 40 chromosomes. There are other factors such as the number of genes controlling a particular trait and if they are on the same or different chromosomes.

    Yes I do a little breeding but not alot at this point. Mainly due to space and a high proportion of immature plants!
    Tony
    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

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    OOOOH yes. N. truncata x hamata should be awesome. Very large, and probably a good toothed peristome, considering the ridgedness of N. truncata's peristome.

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