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    I have a nepenthes with a label of N. fallax. The only real mention I could find was a reference to N. stenophylla. Are these two names interchangable? Are they the same plant? What do we know about N. fallax?

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    jeremy,

    Yes it's the same plant. N. fallax is considered by the taxonomists to be the proper name. I don't think the hobbyists want to give up N. stenophylla.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]Yes it's the same plant. N. fallax is considered by the taxonomists to be the proper name. I don't think the hobbyists want to give up N. stenophylla.
    Say what? The ICPS Carnivorous Plant Database lists N. fallax (G.Beck) and N. stenophylla (Mast.) as different species.
    See: http://www.omnisterra.com/bot/cp_home.cgi

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    The name conversion is going quite slow on that. Wistuba is adamant about it being N. fallax (does not mention N. stenophylla anymore, I think, on his site), and the only other site I can think of that mentions it is Jeff Shafer's site. He has it listed as N. stenophylla, but mentions it's synonomous with N. fallax. Where this will end up, who knows?

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    I know that Malensiana Tropicals sells a N. stenophylla. The interesting thing is the gentleman I purchased my nepenthes from sold me both a N. fallax and a N. stenophylla. He was/is under the impression they are two seperate plants. Whatever the truth is, I have no idea. I can not access the database at work, so I will wait until I get home. Anyone else have an opionion?

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    If you look at
    http://www.humboldt.edu/~rrz7001/Nepenthes.html
    you will find links to 22 different Web sites that have photos of N. stenophylla and 12 different Web sites that have photos of N. fallax. If these are indeed the same species, there are a bunch of folks that will need to revise the names on their collections.

    Of course, the lumpers and the splitters will still have their opinions.

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    What I know about this is that they are variable species. N fallax has a triangular lid I belive while the other has a circular one that will cover the pitcher mouth if it is pushed down over it, the triangular lid (n. fallax) will not cover the pitcher mouth fully.




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    Clarke regards them as synonymous; see C. Clarke, Nepenthes of Borneo, Kota Kinabalu, 1997, p. 127, as referenced on my website.

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