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Thread: Nepenthes Alata from Gublers??

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    Beagle, you've pretty much got it. I have never seen a true N. alata sold in a chain store (Lowe's or Home Depot). These plants are from tissue culture, and the number of wholesale nurseries mass producing Nepenthes can be counted on one hand. The only true alatas in tc that I know of are from sources like M.T., B.E., A. W. The mega-nursery in europe is marketing a ventrata to the world, with the label N. alata. I don't think this is done to purposely mislead, but more out of ignorance-the Home Depot shopper really doesn't know the difference between any two Neps, nor does he/she care.
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    See thats the thing the peristome isnt flared it doesnet have wings on the lip and has no hint of being a Ventrata no red-ish color and the form looks very much like Alata so well just have to see what happends all try to take a pic to see what u guys think Electrric Carnivores!
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    3" pitchers are probably not big enough to show the difference between N. alata and N. Ventrata. Even on mature plants it can be difficult to tell. Odds are it is not N. alata and highly likely it is N. Ventrata or N. ventricosa.

    A picture would help including a top down view of the leaves. N. ventricosa the leaf blade gradually tapers all the way down until it connects to the stem. N. alata has a very clearly seen petiole with none of the leaf blade extending from it. N. Ventrata is somewhere in the middle with a little more taper of the leaf margin but still reaching the stem so the petiole is not clear. There other things to look for but some may not be seen until the plant is quite large.

    Tony

    I would also agree that in many cases identifying an unknown Nepenthes is an educated guess at best and should always be labelled along the lines of this:

    N. Ventrata -?
    or N. Ventrata - identified as
    Something to indicate that it's identity was unknown at one point. The last thing we need is to add to confusion.



    Is that a Nepenthes in your pocket or you just happy to see me?

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    Nice deal you got Drew , i don't see plants labeled or that big from gublers but i'll have to agree with everyone else's opinion on the id even though it was labeled n. alata , i don't think its an n. alata . gublers get there nepenthes in tc from europe , same place where pft got there n. alata in those hanging pots . more liekly to be ventrata from the way the dutch people labeled there plants . please take pics though , i'd love to see the plants you got [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html312/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]

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