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    Hi all:

    Regarding Thorelli, being the real thing in Australia or not, brings an interesting topic. I asked Geoff Mansell from exotica plants about thorelli growing conditions and he said, it does not mind cooling at night. I think he sells 4 types of thorelli and intraspecific hybrids. Perhaps we have a different viariety of thorelli?.Unfortunately, he only has a picture of an intraspecific hybrid.

    http://www.exoticaplants.com.au/welcome....page=13

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    N. thorelii is correct.

    That pitcher looks odd to me Noah. I have never seen one with a striped peristome.
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    Tony,
    That's pretty close to what mine is now starting to look like both in pitcher shape and colouring. Even down to the green peristome.

    Joe,
    Did I miss something in Jeff's comment? You've lost me.
    If it a Raff then I suppose only time will tell until the pitchers mature and show their true form. True?
    Do young Raffs have little or no tendril when young? I'm only familiar with the older plants and pitchers.

    One thing to note on my 'Thorelli' is that the leaves are very very thin. Certainly nothing like any of the 3x slightly older Raffs that I have. Is that to be expected of a young Raff as well?

    Joachim,
    Did you get a positive ID in the end on your plant? Any pics?

    Noah,
    That's a nice little pitcher and not too dissimilar to mine other than that very long and thin tendril
    Plus that striping on the peristome seems a bit out of place.

    Hi Gus,
    Geoff says night cooling is OK. Interesting.

    I tell ya, the uncertainty can drive you nuts.

    So it may or may not be Thorelli.
    if it is it may or may not like some night cooling.

    Well, for now I think I'll keep to what I'm doing and wait to see how it matures.

    I get a current picture up in the next day or so.

    Thanks everyone.

    Aaron.

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    That's the first I have ever heard it is supposed to be more like N. rafflesiana. I would not try and compare to N. rafflesiana at this point...I find that hard to believe but who knows. Formal descriptions are hard to come by.

    The leaves on mine are fuzzy and somewhat thick and fleshy. Judging by the picture of the plant when you got it I would say it was under low light and high humidity which would account for the color and thin floppyness of the leaves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I would say it was under low light and high humidity which would account for the color and thin floppyness of the leaves.
    Quite possible as I've been very surprises at how fast its colour changed on both the leaves and older pitchers. The new leaves also look a bit more firm as well.

    Aaron.

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    Hi guys,

    Here is a couple of pixs of N. thorelli in the wild:

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/NatureLan...elii-big1.html

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/NatureLan...elii-big2.html

    Choong

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    Thanks Choong,
    They look like what I am accustomed to seeing as N. thorelii.

    Anyone know where the official species description is? I can't seem to come up with one.
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    Well, I was not trying to hint Aaron had N. rafflesiana. I apologize for the confusion. I was just recalling what Jan Schlauer had said. Nobody else has ever said anything like that before or since.
    Maybe the TYPE specimen from when the plant was named looks really funky compared to what we all know.

    Regards,

    Joe

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