You grow this N. thorelii (that isn't), far better than we can. Reckon we have had a sickly weak clone all this time. We recently had to destroy it for legal reasons but are raising a bunch of new ones from seed. Might be luckier next time. Like Tony, we've found it only does well in strictly lowland conditions but have never managed to get pitchers like in the last photo you posted. Congrats! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img]
I like my extremes… grow some to excel like this N thorelii and then get that darn fungus on others [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img] *Need to find some middle ground!
I must admit that this clone of N. throelii (or not) does seem to like my intermediate conditions. *I can't take too much credit as I've not really had to try too hard with it. *for me I'd be putting it in the same ease of growing level as my ventricosa’s, sanguinea’s and alata’s.
The plant itself was not in very good condition when I got it and having recently been to see the commercial grower neither are any that they have now. *Certainly none of the red colouring was present.
The thought had crossed my mind to get a few more in the hope of getting males and females but I am pretty sure they are TC'd so if I understand correctly there no point as they’ll all be the same sex?
As a side note, the grower does ship internationally as far as I know so maybe you can get some of this exact clone to cross back with your own stock? *Maybe resulting in a more cool tolerant plant?
I too have wondered what version of N. thorelli I have. I got my a few years back from the CP Jungle which I believe got the plants that originated from Exotica Plants. My plant isn't as red as Tony's but I grow my outdoors. My version of N. thorelli has withstood highland conditions into the upper 30's but usually 40's on winter nights without too much damage. I grow it as a highlander purely by mistake but the plant has survived and done well for me. My plant has somewhat papery leaves so it does stress a bit in winter time. Since I've never grown my "thorelli" indoors I can't attest to how it does in lowland conditions. But my guy has adapted to outdoor conditions with my other highlanders. Here's a link to my plant http://www.venturalink.net/~maxxpaxx/nthorel.htm
Some of the pitchers tend to be redder in summer. I should update that species photo. Maybe someone else has a version like mine that they bought from the CP Jungle a few years back.