yeah thats the one. it still had the dried up flower stalk on it(infact its on my cutting) and i would definatly say its female. the flowers look nothing like my Mirandas and i found sone dried male flowers on another plant just to make sure. there were a couple other females, one i would say was ventrata and i already have one that is labeled as female from another grower who takes cuttings of his large established plants so i have no reason to doubt it but time will tell as i have yet to flower it. but after spending the $50 on the veitchii Darla would have shot me if i went after another one, a couple orchids were justified as she loves the flowers. she thinks my "killer" plants are interesting but she prefers flowers which is prolly why she likes my Utrics. truth be told the plants were looking rather ratty and in need of cleaning up. they were still worth the stop to look especially being as several of the plants are 20 plus years old. the veitchii looked great, and prolly was the best looking of the bunch other than the dead flower stalks.