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    I'll always remember Joachim Nerz giving the first talk at the ICPS conference in Bonn in 2000. He put 4 photos of utterly different looking neps up on the screen and his words were: "These are all Nepenthes maxima". I would have pegged them as 4 individual species, but apparently not.

    Charles Clarke went some way to sorting out some of the confusion surrounding Sumatran Nepenthes but species such as Nepenthes alata and look alikes are just not glamorous enough for anyone to want to travel all over the Philippines sorting them out. I once got Charlie to go to Philippines with me but that was only to lie on a beach and stare a Mt. Halcon on the horizon, he's not overly keen on the place.
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    Rob,

    My break is running short , and I would love to ask more, but...are you saying that according to one field expert, red ventricosa are a different species than the TYPE pale form?

    Cheers,

    Joe

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    Joe,

    I think what Rob was alluding too, but because he's too polite to say it openly, is that even a noted taxonomist can say something as patently stupid that a red ventricosa is not ventricosa because it's red...

    That being the case, veitchii wouldn't be veitchii but about 15 different species!

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    That's right, and what about all the forms of Alata there are. Highland red striped, Var. Boschiana, and a few others that i don't know.

    Also, what about Rafflesiana, with the giant form, Var. Nivea, VAr. Elongata, Var. Alata, and, of course, the typical form.

    Note people, Homo Sapiens (humans) are not different species between Caucaisan, African American, Asian, etc.

    This is getting to be one **** of a conversation.

    Hmm, Maybe Kinabaluensis x Bicalcarata. The huge pitchers, with the awesome peristome, and the fangs. [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img] Plus, i think it would be very, very tolerant of temps. Maybe better as a highland though.

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    This is something i always wanted:

    villosa X ampullaria= I am sure it will withstand the widest range of temperature fluctuations.

    Gus

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    Joe,

    Actually, the guy is definitely a good taxonomist and well respected in his field but sees things in only shades of black and brown

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (Borneo @ Nov. 12 2004,10:56)]Joe,

    Actually, the guy is definitely a good taxonomist and well respected in his field but sees things in only shades of black and brown

    [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]
    Hey Rob,

    this makes it quite easy to determine whom you're speaking of... [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_m_32.gif[/img]

    Cheers Joachim

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    Villosa x Ampullaria huh? Lemme imagine how it would look here... A reasonable sized pitcher with an upside down (you know, like Ampullaria's is?) lid, and a nice tubby shape with spines around the rim. Sounds good. I just wonder if one could grow it on a windowsill, or what kind of greenhouse one should grow it in.

    By the way Tony, from what you're saying, you'd rather me type in the obscene word, and let the word filter take care of it than me just typing in random symbols that have nothing to do with the word like they do in kid's cartoons? That's the way i'm reading it. (No offense there, i got carried away.)

    Nice "talking" to all of you guys [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]
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