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    Hello

    I have to say that dose not look like my N. mirabilis 'echinostoma'.

    That looks similar to a N. mirabilis I got at PFT a few year ago.

    thanks
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    Josh, Uh! Oh! [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_h_32.gif[/img] Doesn't look right to me. Immature N. mirabilis var. echinostoma - let's just call it "echino" don't have the really wide peristome until they are mature but even so, that plant has the look of a standard N. mirabilis ro me I'm afraid.

    Apart from the crazy pitcher, echino differs from standard N. mirabilis by the 4 longitudinal veins running the length of the leaf, 2 either side of the midrib.

    Trent, I agree about the massive root systems, they get really huge and push up shipping costs unless they are trimmed back. Guess that's why high humidity's a must, it obviously needs to suck up a lot of moisture and unless the roots are very large and wet, transpiration needs to be kept to a minimum. It naturally occurs in completely waterlogged creek beds composed mainly of brilliant white silicon sand. I can feel the humidity now just thinking about it.

    You're lucky to have got a solid red one from seed. I searched for ages to get seeds from a nice red female and fortunately we have a solid red one in tissue culture. About 5% of the offspring were red with over 50% being hybrids with N. rafflesiana and N. gracilis. Usual thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (swords @ Nov. 08 2004,9:07)]Oh that's just poopy, my N. mirabilis Echinostoma from Wistuba is surely not an Echinostoma at all then! ...

    I sure hope the N. neoguineensis I'm getting from them in the mail next week really is and isn't just a green ampullaria or something!
    Dear Josh,

    indeed you are right. Fact is that I bought in young plants of N. mirabilis echinostoma, N. rafflesiana, N. gracilis and a few hybrids which partly I do not have in vitro myself (exclusively lowland stuff) or for simple price reasons.
    As the N. m. e. belongs to the very few plants I ever sold that I do not have in vitro I cannot even tell if others received wrong N. mirabilis echinostoma from me. The plants I sold are from two different sources.
    I'm of cause very sorry for this incident and can only offer a refund of money paid for the wrong N. mirabilis echinostoma. I'm very unhappy about the situation myself and as a consequence do not buy any Nepenthes in for resale since the issue came up.

    Concerning the N. neoguineensis, I think you know (when reviewing what you ordered from me in the past) that this is a very very rare occasion of a wrongly labelled plant having been sold by me in accident.
    So please rest assured. More than 99% of the plants I sell are propagated and well verified by me.

    Bye and sorry

    Andreas

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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]I sure hope the N. neoguineensis I'm getting from them in the mail next week really is and isn't just a green ampullaria or something!
    This is a case of I forgot to add this smiley face at the end: [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img] I'm not that upset!
    I would've imagined the mix up due to something else, thanks for the explanation though!

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    Hi Andreas,

    Would you like to exchange N. miabilis var. echinostoma in vitro with that new species you have? [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile_n_32.gif[/img]
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    Eh? What is this new species that you speak of? Any pics?

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    Andreas has photos of it on his web site under the section on Sumatra. It's called N. spec. nov. Sumatra.
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    I heard, Ne. spec nov. Sumatra will get its name untill the start of 2005 and Andreas is working for a description. The pitchers are awesome. I have only a tiny seedling with a diameter of 3cm [img]http://www.**********.com/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/new/smile.gif[/img] but it grows.
    Why has Ne. mirabilis echinostoma no hairs on the Multi-cellular Fringe Elements? For what reason did it become a subspecies of Ne. mirabilis?

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