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    I've got a magic window! elgecko's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] (NepsAroundTheHouse @ Dec. 09 2004,10:23)]You'd really be surprised how tought Neps can be!
    I have to agree with Joel.
    When I first read the information on the web about neps I thought there is no way that I would be able to grow them, they sounded so difficult.
    I do not grow many neps, 5 to be exact, which all but 1 (it is a seedling about a nickle in diameter in a terrarium), are growing as windowsill plants in the house. They seem to usually take around 2 to 3 months to settle in and start to pitcher for me.

    Joel,
    Just wanted to add that I spent a lot of time at your site over a year ago reading the information you have posted there before I decided to try my first nep.
    Great site.


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    The swamp cooler really helps bring the temps down on a very dry and hot day. The dryer the air, the better. Maybe thats why my N. hamata matured so quickly due to the setup I have as Josh described. It really was worth all the hassle to get the bugs worked out. Certainly wasn't as expensive as I thought it would be to build it (around $80) DIY, just bought the pump, pads, and thermostat. The thermostat is a 2 stager having the cooler kick on at the initial set temperature and the exhaust fan engage another 2-4 degrees above the set temp.




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    Now I will be completely ignorant: what is "DIY"? Is it "Do it yourself?"

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    Controlling humidity while battling heat buildup is always an issue. Realistically speaking a greenhouse out in the sun will be at the same humidity as the surrounding air if it is venting properly and no extra measures are in place to increase humidity/improve cooling, other than simply opening the vents. In order to keep a greenhouse cooled you need to exchange the air every minute or two if your just using venting. That's how fast the sun can turn the greenhouse into a sauna. Active cooling such as fogging/misting/evaporative pads etc allow you to reduce the air exchange rate, humidify, and in some parts of the country cool below outside air temperature.

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    So the original idea of the greenhouse, is to grow plants in Winter months, thus their design worries about temp control-not so much about humidity. Is that it, pretty much?

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    Greenhouses serve much more purpose than to grow plants in Winter months. If you wanted to sum it up I would say, it is a way to grow a nonfield crop in controlled conditions. The level or degree to which you need to modify the conditions inside the greenhouse will depend largely on the crop and the outside conditions.

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    I'm in south Florida where many Neps can be grown as patio plants, but a greenhouse provides a more ideal condition year round. Summers are cooler inside the greenhouse, and for winters all it has to do is provide a minimum warmth. This weekend I may be using heat for the first time this season,as we are hearing threats of temps dropping into the forties Saturday night. No problem for maxima hybrids, but ampullarias and bicalcarata must be protected. We keep 55 F as our low on the thermostat.

    Trent

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    El Gecko,

    Thanks for the kinds words. That's great that you've got some Neps on the sills pitchering for you. Glad you enjoyed the site. I usually try to update it about once a month. Maybe by this Xmas vacation I'll be able to finally update all of the species profiles with more accurate information on what Neps tolerate outdoor and windowsill accommodations the best and worst!

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