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    the heat pad is the kind used for sore muscles. they are in a 75 gal tank with the heater sitting undernieth the glass bottom. most lowlanders dont mind a drop at night as long as its nice and warm during the day so its just plugged in to the power strip that my lights are on so its just on during the day. prolly 65 at night and close to 90 during the day with 85% or better humidity during the day as the plants are sitting above about an inch of the heated water. i would say its worth a shot. they may not look their best during the summer but i dont think its high enough to seriously harm them. they just wont be to happy. most intermediate types are fairly adabtable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by [b
    Quote[/b] ]they may not look their best during the summer
    You mean because it would be too hot? (for highlanders I guess?)
    Of course, I want them to be as happy as possible.

    How big a drop in temp do highlanders need anyway, in a 10F drop isn't enough?
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    in all honesty im not sure if its enough drop. i figured they needed to drop down to about 60-65 for intermediates to be happy. im just starting with highlanders. i really liked N. bongso, so i researched them and was told they are actually fairly adaptable. so i purchased one from Tony P, an excellent specimen. i wanted to try some other highlanders but figured i would see how intermediates do first so i purchaced the sib and mac(this time not from Tony) because they are from about the same elevations as bongso. so far they are doing quite well. the sib is putting out leaves like mad. the mac and bongso have each put out one new leaf.
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    Elevation is a good indicator for temperature range. As well as advice from other growers and the place your getting your plants from. Always the best plan to research before you buy!

    I keep my lowland plants with a minimum 75 at night, warmer in the day. My own thought is why bother spending the money to heat (or cool) a grow chamber if your not specifically trying to grow a particular plant that really needs it to do well. There are a large number of Nepenthes that will do quite well with normal house temperatures.

    Rattler - I would be cautious of the drugstore heating pad setup. They are not really designed for longterm/continuous use or to have alot of weight on them. Big fire hazard potential if they are used like that. An alternative would be soil heating cables or pad from a greenhouse supply place. Or you could even go with a waterbed heating mat.

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    O yeah.. maybe the N. coccinea clone I had was not a good grower. Everyone claims the mass produced gardencenter plant is really vigorous. But then again it was out in my main highland greenhouse.. oops
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    concerns duely noted Tony. picked up the heat pad thing from keeping snakes. there are more than a few who do it. minimal wieght is on the pad. there is about 1/3 inch of space under the tank. i dont think it was ever an aquarium as the glass is awful thin for holding the over 600 pounds of water it would normally contain. i think it was always intended to be a snake/lizard cage. i realize its not ideal but it serves its purpose for now. it will be replaced the next time i get out of town and can get to an actual greenhouse supply store. that has been my intention since i put the pad under there a few weeks ago.
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    Tony : Of course there are some I wish to grow more than others. A long list in fact. But I'll be realistic and pick among that list those who will do well.

    (My termometer is at the bottom of the tank, after verification, temperature is a good 7F higher when measured at the top. Those fluorescent are really heating things up, and I guess the termometer was being sheilded from that heat by Maxima's leaves. Might explain why Coccinea likes it so much then, even if it's a "picky lowlander", it's pretty tall and thus rather close to the lights.)
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