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Thread: Anyone grow nepenthes in unfavorable conditions?

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    As the title reads, does anyone do this? I ask because I'm currently housing a Bicalcarata "red flush" in a 50gallon tank but it's starting to outgrow it. I'm thinking of building a large terrarium that's 2.5'W X 4'L X 3ftH. This will also house my ampullaria and N. rafflesiana. But knowing the growing habits of Bicals, I know within a year it'll probably out grow it. The question remains, how do I forcefully grow them outside a desired climate?

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    Where? Kitchen with East facing window.
    Summer temps: from 75-95F
    Winter temps: from 60-70F
    Summer Humidity: 10-30% (crap!)
    WInter Humidity: 50-70%
    Location: San Jose California
    EDIT: terrarium conditions now are 82F and 85%.

    What can I do? If the risk of shock is too high then I rather just build a terrarium than to lose them.

    Thanks

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    normally yes, there are lots of ppl here growing Nepenthes on window sills with no problems. that said. bicals are EXTREAMLY picky about low humidity. i have a bical x amp hybrid that needs high humidity and lots of warmth or it refuses to grow. there are a couple horror stories on here about how only a few hours out of a hot and humid grow chamber killed some nice sized bicals. my spotted amp also likes to have warmth and high humidity or it refuses to do much for me. with such a good sized plant i would be really worried about trying to adabpt it to lower humidity. if it was a younger plant it might be worth a try.
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    Yeah the only thing worrying me is that the plants might not adjust because they've been in such good conditions for so long. I'm leaning towards building a terrarium since it's only fair that they live in the conditions that they were made to live in. I've had these guys for too long, they went from just under 6in to over a foot in a year and it would be sad if they had to suffer because I couldn't give them the right climate. The kitchen is pretty much empty so I can always expand in the future. Thanks for the reply.

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    ohhh tough question. Success will depend alot on the plant and exactly how unfavorable the conditions are. Some plants are indeed much more temperamental and simply just don't do well if you push them just a little the wrong way. Some will just up and croak while others may just not pitcher or pitcher sporadically.

    There are quite a few people in CA that grow them outdoors and as houseplants but it will take some careful selection and lots of experimentation on your part. Conditions in such a situation vary considerably and can change rapidly and drastically from season to season so only general recommendations can be made as to potentally tolerant plants. N. bicalcarata however is not one in my opinion. Heat is key with this plant. Your posted Winter temperatures are too cold. Maybe if you had a nice warm room it would survive the colder months. Just keep in mind that any plant will need a long acclimation period with careful monitoring. N. bicalcarata will be particularly sensitive to a humidity drop for some time as well.

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    Rattler, I have a spotted amp growing in humidity that most likely averages between 45% and 50% right now...Just goes to show you how much individuality these plants have.

    That said, I would NOT test out your conditions, cprus, on a bical. You will most likely end up with crisp.
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    schloaty i agree it varies greatly between individual plants. i wouldnt want to try it with my particular one since it seems picky but im not surprised that yours is doing well. my bical x amp is even pickyer, hybrid vigor aparently didnt aply to it adapting to lower humidity with this one. my rokko, ventrata and Ile de France dont mind lower humidity than i am currently giving them but they do seem to enjoy it. experimenting is fine but not really a good idea with a soft grown bical of decent size.
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    Thanks for the help. I've already started drawing and planning the terrarium. It'll be 30"W X 48"L X 36"H. I'm guessing they can stay in there for at least 2 years.

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    I have an idea
    When it produces a basal shoot, maybe you can remove it and adapt the basal shoot to be a windowsill plant?
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