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Thread: N. lowii g. trus madi?

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    Greetings:

    While potting up stragglers in my collection this past weekend, I was somewhat surprised to see that a lone seedling of Nepenthes lowii "Gunung Trus Madi" that I obtained from Andreas Wistuba in 2000 (!!!) has finally generated a couple of 2.5 cm lower pitchers. Unlike its more robust cousins from other origins, these pitchers do not have bristles on the underside of their lids. These minute pitchers are also much more elongate than the other plants that I grow, although the overall plant morphology is the same.

    This particular plant is, obviously, a painfully slow grower.

    I know that there are people here who have both this ecotype of N. lowii and N. x trusmadiensis in their collections. Is it possible that this plant is a hybrid, or is the lack of bristles at this early stage normal/of no consequence? I also understand that there was some question as to whether older N. macrophylla in TC were hybrids - what was the final determination on them?

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    Jay

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    Jay,

    You'd have to wait for a few more pitchers to be produced to see if it's a consistent characteristic. Also, at that size lowii does produce pitchers with no bristles on the underside of the lid. If a 5cm pitcher is produced with no bristles, then you may have a hybrid.

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    Way to young to see any bristles yet. Wait until the plant has pitchers around the size of a thimble before starting to see any hairs.

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    Hi Jay.
    Your Nepenthes lowii "Gunung Trus Madi" is a bit small to tell yet. Sounds like it needs to get a bit larger before it starts to pick up speed.
    I can't tell a difference in growth between the "trus madi" and other lowii. I personally like the "Gunung Trus Madi" version better, as it has really red purple pitchers. Hang in there.

    I am wondering about N.macrophylla hybrids myself. Here is picture of one of my "Mystery plants".
    [img]http://home.**********.com/users/rlhirst/neps/neps2/mac04.jpg[/img]
    Any opinions?

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    Thanks for the prompt responses.

    I'm still curious about these pitchers. In particular, the plants that I have from Gunung Mulu show bristles on their lids when even pitchers were smaller (albeit much chunkier) than this.

    I will, however, "hang in there" for another decade or so until this plant grows up...

    rlhirst: your "mystery plant" is wonderful - looks like a vigorously snaggle-toothed but somewhat pale macrophylla. Perhaps a few sessions in the local tanning salon will color it up?

    Peace/Jay

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    Well, based on how well Jay's other plants grow in his environment, I am guessing something is not right. Almost five years and it's producing a one inch pitcher?
    Jeff will have to chime in and tell us the difference between the four locations, but didn't he get a plant to flower that was six years old?
    Maybe you got a lousy clone?
    Cheers,

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    Hey Robin, looks to me like you're the proud owner of a young N. x Trusmadiensis.

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    rlhirst, I would agree with the view that your pictured plant is macrophylla. What made you call it a "mystery" plant?
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